Desire & Despair... about the Middle East and Iran...

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  1. Onward James

    Onward James New Member

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    "DESIRE & DESPAIR"... Great title for a novel about unrequited love.

    However, this time the topic is about the Arabs (Middle East Muslims). The term "Arabs"includes all, even the Persians. The leaders desire a Caliphate, to rule their ill-fated world. The zealots are basically ashamed that the West has surpassed them and that they haven't defeated Israel. Not all Muslims desire the despots and theocrats aspirations. Unfortunately, the Muslim Brotherhood and other fanatical sects will take over when all present dictators are removed, replacing them with even more religious dictators and extremists.

    Over a decade ago, I read "The Devil's Horsemen" by James Chambers, about the Mongols' retribution to the Shah of Khwarizim. Khwarizim was several Muslim nations or cultures ruled by the Shah. I decided to write an historical fiction novel "Nomads, Warriors & Shamans" now titled "Barbarians".

    As a result of further intense research, I learned about the Sunnis and Shi'ites, about Baghdad and Samarqand.

    BARBARIANS - former title Nomads, Warriors & Shamans
    http://onwardjames.blogspot.com/2009/05/barbarians-novel-for-literary-agents.html

    Today, Iran, once part of Khwarizim, is a potential catastrophic threat. The fanatic mullahs do not mind if they are annihilated since many would join them.

    Israel is not alone, however, because at least the Canadian government and a few other countries stand behind and with the Israelis. Mind you, Israel can likely do what they have to on their own.

    Obama is campaigning and doesn't want any more blemishes before the election. He might also lose American Muslim votes and donations, (perhaps a lot from other parts of the world).

    Frankly, to establish and maintain peace with the medieval minds — Victory First.

    Remarks by President Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu - White House
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ent-obama-and-prime-minister-netanyahu-israel

    Obama Assures Israel of Resolve to Confront Iran Amid ‘Loose Talk of War’
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...to-confront-iran-amid-loose-talk-of-war-.html

    Obama stated that Israel should refrain from the threat of attacking Iran since that causes the gasoline prices to escalate. If the Commander-In-Chief approved the Keystone pipelines more oil would be sold and flow from Canada, Ethical Oil, from an honourable neighbour.

    Netanyahu defends right to strike Iran to Obama: Israel the ‘master of its fate’
    http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...-iran-to-obama-israel-the-master-of-its-fate/
     
  2. Margot

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    No one is interested in a new Caliphate.. except for a few who want the OPEC countries to give them a welfare check every month.

    This claim is Western claptrap by amateurs.
     
  3. waltky

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    Cannucks say Israel has right to defend itself against Iran...
    :fart:
    Canada says Israel has right to defend itself against Iran
    Monday 5th March, 2012 - While on his way to Washington Benjamin Netanyahu stopped in Ottawa to confer with his patriot in arms, Stephen Harper.
    See also:

    Obama seeks to calm Israeli fears over nuclear Iran
    Monday 5 Mar 2012 - US President Barack Obama criticizes "loose talk of war" as he pleaded for patience in ending the nuclear standoff with Iran, arguing that sustained international pressure can work
     
  4. raymondo

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    Notice how astutely Margot sits on the fence , not wanting to commit herself without reliable sources to support an opinion .
    So clever these Americans .rofl .
     
  5. Onward James

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    Marogt is obviously an apologist and appeaser, who might've worked for Arabs, and still does, or belongs to one of the Muslim organizations.

    Who does the world benefit from? What culture and societies? I have chosen who and what I stand for pro-Israel, pro-Zionism, pro-democracy, pro-freedom, and pro-liberty. For over a decade I have researched and studied the Middle East, certain aspects.

    Margot is quite limited in her knowledge and slanted.

    Margot has stated she worked there... indeed, and who for, and why?
     
  6. ObamaYoMoma

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    Why would you let Muslims and Islam off the hook that way by calling them Arabs? So since you like to let Muslims and Islam off the hook by lumping all Arabs together, even non-Arab Persians, let me ask you about the Christian Arabs, do they also support a world Caliphate and the permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel and indeed all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world by the Islamic world? How about Zoroastrians, do they also support the aforementioned. How about the Druzes, do they as well support the aforementioned.

    By the way, what does being an Arab have to do with the permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually by the Islamic world against not only the Jewish unbelievers in Israel, but also all non-Muslim unbelievers in the world today that collectively comprise the stealth global jihad?

    I mean do you think that the Muslims that live in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, China, Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, Cote D'Ivoire, Nigeria, etc., etc., etc. for instance, somehow don't support the permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel and at the same time also virtually all other non-Muslim unbelievers around the world, per the dictates of Islam, mostly via mass Muslim immigration to the un-Islamic world, that is really covert and deceptive non-violent jihad for the purpose of infiltration and stealth demographic conquest?

    Indeed, why would you want to let Muslims and Islam off the hook that way? I mean almost all Israelis and Israeli supporters constantly use the word Arab, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, as opposed to the correct word Muslim, and every time they do so, they shoot not only Israel but themselves in the foot at the same time. Indeed, it's the most harmful and the biggest mistake by far that they all collectively make.

    Thus, today since most Israelis and Israeli supporters, per the dictates of PC multiculturalism, always constantly use the word Arab as opposed to the correct word Muslim, the vast overwhelming majority of delusional Euroloons in the world today believe that Israel is the aggressor and the Arabs are the victims, and never mind the fact that the conflict is not really a (*)(*)(*)(*) conflict at all, but instead a permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against the Jewish unbelievers in Israel by the Islamic world via their proxy the so-called Palestinians, that were created out of whole cloth by the Soviet KGB in Moscow in 1964 to dupe gullible useful idiots. In fact, nobody is more responsible for misleading so many people and turning them against Israel more than the Israelis themselves and their supporters. It's PC multiculturalism run amuck!

    Indeed, why would the Jewish unbelievers in Israel cloak the permanent jihad of conquest being waged perpetually against them by the Islamic world by misrepresenting it as a conflict, instead of what it actually is, which is a permanent and perpetual jihad of conquest, and undercut their own national security and national interests at the same time? Do they have a collective death wish or something?

    The few that don't aren't Muslims at all, but instead blasphemous apostates that per the dictates of mainstream orthodox Islam must be executed.

    Uhm...the existence of radical Islam, extremist Islam, fundamentalist Islam, fanatical Islam, moderate Islam, peaceful Islam, or whatever, exactly like the existence of radical Muslims, extremist Muslims, Islamist Muslims, fundamentalist Muslims, fanatical Muslims, moderate Muslims, peaceful Muslims, or whatever, are all false PC multicultural myth. There are only MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX MUSLIMS and MAINSTREAM ORTHODOX ISLAM. Anything else is a false PC multicultural myth.

    Furthermore, Islam is not a religion at all. It's a supremacist theo-political totalitarian ideology that masquerades as being a religion to dupe the gullible societies it intends to subjugate into a very draconian form of Islamic totalitarianism via the eventual imposition of Sharia for the purpose of stealth demographic conquest to make Islam supreme.

    Indeed, out of the 57 Islamic states that today make up the OIC, how many of them are legit democracies whereby freedom, liberty, and human rights are intrinsic? Zero! How many of them don't violently oppress and systematically persecute, when not outright slaughtering them altogether, the Christians and other non-Muslim unbelievers living in their draconian Islamic totalitarian hellholes as less than second-class dhimmi citizens? Zero! How many of them don't treat females as property? Zero! How many of them don't execute homosexuals? Zero!
     
  7. Onward James

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    Valid point. Especially since I am not fond of the medieval ideology and the Qur'an, the doctrine of the sword and deceit.

    Indeed, I was being too politically correct, too soft with those who have submitted. Do forgive me.
     

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