diaoyu islands(The fishing islands) is belong to china

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  1. fushan

    fushan Newly Registered

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    these islands belong to china and have record in document at least 700 years,no man can deny it.

    if some body said it belong to japan,just prove it.
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

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    You mean the Senkaku Islands?

    According to the last publicly available information, the ownership title of the islands mostly belongs to the Tatsushirō family in Japan, while Kunioki Kurihara owns 3 of the islands, and his sister another.

    However, the islands have been uninhabited for long stretches of time. The USA recognised Japanese sovereignty over the islands in 1972, while mainland China objected.

    Perhaps, but would that mean the islands belong to The People's Republic of China (mainland China) or to the Chinese Republic (Taiwan)?
    If you look on a map, the Diaoyu islands lie much closer to Taiwan than to the mainland.
     
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    You mean the Koolookooloobeeleebaalaa Islands? Sorry, E.T. had told me so in a dream.

    If you do a research among the Native American community, you may come across some Native American families who claim ownership of the land what the early European settlers called the New World and what their descendants now call the United States.

    Once again it confirms one of the Laws of the Jungle: Might makes right.

    If U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has the balls to tell all the Ah Q protesters openly about the US stance in his upcoming trip to China, I will definitely salute him as a hero.

    In the past few centuries, the European and US imperialists quartered the world like a lamb on a dining table. They dictated and decided the drawing of all colonial boundaries in the world.

    For instance, most of the boundaries in Africa are straight lines, cutting through the homelands of various tribes and resulting in many similar tribes being divided between two or more different states.

    The current frictions and disputes in many parts of the world are the consequence of the past misdeeds of Western imperialists and colonialists -- like a cat leaving behind its (*)(*)(*)(*) after finishing the plate of fish on a table.

    Taking another example, the ancestors of Native Americans were weak and backward but not stupid. They were "right" but had no might, and they had ended up in tragedy.

    The Barefoot Bum
    http://barefootbum.blogspot.sg/2007/12/might-makes-right.html

    Colonial borders. Does Africa have a choice?
    http://blogs.reuters.com/africanews/2008/08/14/colonial-borders-does-africa-have-a-choice/

    U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Begins Trip To Japan, China And New Zealand
    http://www.rttnews.com/1966344/u-s-...gins-trip-to-japan-china-and-new-zealand.aspx

    So by the same logic, you have to acknowledge that the Falklands Islands, known as Las Malvinas to Argentina, lie much closer to Argentina than to Britain.

    Again, most of the disputes in the world can be traced all the way back to the past misdeeds of Western imperialists and their Asian copycat cum disciple Japan in the past few centuries.

    PRC and ROC are the historic by-products of imperialist invasions and Chinese civil wars. Western and Japanese Imperialists have gone (at least for the moment) but what they have left behind continues to stink!

    South Atlantic: Britain May Provoke New Conflict With Argentina
    http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/201...tain-may-provoke-new-conflict-with-argentina/
     
  4. reedak

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    Welcome aboard, friend! You sound like one of those modern Boxers in the current widespread anti-Japanese protests in 50 Chinese cities across the country. If you have any knowledge about undisclosed records and secret documents in Chinese museums and universities, please share it with us.
     
  5. Albert Di Salvo

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    Uncle,

    I'm having a debate on a British forum about whether the Chinese people dislike the British or the Americans more. I'm arguing that the Chinese dislike the British more because of the Opium Wars and millions of ruined Chinese lives. What do you think?
     
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    Good, tell me the name of the British forum. I wish to join you there.

    Well, it depends on which type of Chinese you are talking about. Mainland Chinese dislike the British more because of the Opium Wars and millions of ruined Chinese lives.

    However, there is a growing dislike by the Hong Kong Chinese for their mainland cousins. A growing number of Hongkongers, especially the young, openly declare that they prefer the former British colonial rule more than the Chinese rule. They are not shy to hide their nostalgia for the "good old days" of the kwailos.

    In their protests against the Chinese Central Government this year, some young Hong Kong demonstrators waved the British colonial flag. A few even wrapped the British colonial flag round their bodies, lamenting that they have missed the good old days of the British colonial rule during their childhood.

    If there were any Hongkong Chinese who hated the British most, it must be the ancestors of the Hongkongers -- the first batch of Chinese in Hong Kong who refused to live under foreign rule and kept on fighting even after the British took over Hong Kong in the aftermath of the Opium Wars.

    What an irony!
     
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    http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/forum.php

    http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/bnp/113851-american-new-right-16.html
     
  8. Anders Hoveland

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    Of course, the conflict is not really about the islands themselves — which are just barren little rocky lumps in the middle of nowhere. The conflict is about the ocean floor that surrounds the islands (possible oil), and to a lesser extent the fish that inhabit the waters.

    My view on this is that, since the islands have remained mostly uninhabited historically, the waters surrounding the islands should be regarded as international waters, just like any other area of ocean not in the proximity of sovereign territory.
     
  9. waltky

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    What's it arra `bout, Arfie?...

    Panetta Warns of War Between China and Japan Over Disputed Islands
    September 17, 2012 – Exchanging warnings but avoiding confrontations thus far, Chinese and Japanese ships have come within less than half a nautical mile of each other in an ongoing dispute over the sovereignty of contested islands.
     
  10. wanchao

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    chinese do not hate any country,expect the japan actually.
     

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