Did anything become of Einstein's gravity waves?

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    AboveAlpha, relax. I know you're not trying to lead me astray. I understand more than you think.

    I just had some things I wanted to say. So I said them.

    I thought your other post was too short. One of the things I love about you is how you really spill the beans and post a lot of words when someone pokes you a little. :grin:

    (Don't get me!) :eekeyes:

    This is all very interesting. I think the next step is joining up with non-linear time.


    P.S. Say... I didn't know you could post on other forums...
     
  2. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Just a couple....for reasos I can't talk about.

    Thanks.

    I killed a lot of men the other day.

    I KNOW they deseved to die.

    Doesn't make it feel any better.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, at least you still have your conscience. You're a good man at heart. You didn't become a large callous oaf.
     
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    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    You know why I still do what I do?

    I really don't need to....I am no longer heald by contraact to an extent......I am extremely wealthy and don't need the money.

    I do it becuase I only trust myself to do it right.

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    So, if you want something done right you've got to do it yourself, huh? LOL! :rolleyes:

    Good for you. You're probably right, why mess with what works, right? Just don't get a big head! :grin: You can't do it forever.


    Today I learned that photons don't experience time: Does light experience time?.
    Have you ever noticed that time flies when you're having fun? Well, not for light. In fact, photons don't experience any time at all. Here's a mind-bending concept that should shatter your brain into pieces.​

    And, time is relative... well, I already know that, but still it says light has a constant that's the same for all observers. (Unless you're that photon from the previous article.)
    What time is it in the universe?
    Flavor Flav knows what time it is. At least he does for Flavor Flav. Even with all his moving and accelerating, with the planet, the solar system, getting on planes, taking elevators, and perhaps even some light jogging. In the immortal words of Kool Moe Dee. Do you know what time it is?​
     
  6. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    A Photon is a massless Quantum Particle/Wave Form.

    If you want o learn more about what you are talking about look into PHOTON WAVE PACKETS and again take a look at the results of the Double Slit Experiment and it will give you a better understanding.

    AboveAlpha...p.s...Although Photons do not have mass....they do have a type of MOMENTUM....Angular Spin Momentum as it is known....if I were you...I would take a look into that as well.
     
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    10A Chief Deplorable Past Donor

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    Photons don't "experience" anything. They're just particle/waves doing their thing. To put "experience" on photons is anthropomorphism. Photons don't have wrist watches.
     
  8. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, I'm not familiar with the higher math skills needed to evaluate the equations. This is what I read:

    In the double slit experiment, the entangled Photon demonstrates non-locality. By Local I mean the path of the Photon appears to travel in space and time.

    I didn't have much luck understanding Spin. The descriptions are mostly pure math equations. I got far enough to see that Bosons behave in a certain way and it's important for calculating the wavefunction... Not knowing wavefunctions I'll just say it's a wave, and leave the details to the experts.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just wait and see what happens if it turns out we live in a holographic universe. :grin:

    Is the Universe a 2D Hologram? Experiment Aims to Find Out

    "We want to find out whether space-time is a quantum system just like matter is," Craig Hogan, director of Fermilab's Center for Particle Astrophysics, said in a statement. "If we see something, it will completely change ideas about space we've used for thousands of years." ​
     
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    Dimensions. curious things..and there's 11 of them? Are those extra dimensions full blown dimensions or just what? The three that we're all most familiar with; height, width and depth and time thrown as a 4th dimension. What are their characteristics alone and apart? Or do they even have characteristics? Can height or width or depth exist without the existence it's supporting members in a 3 dimensional universe? Like, can anything be 'X' high but have no width and/or depth? Do those 7 or 8 hidden dimensions need the existence of the Big 3 in order to exist? If so, are they indeed dimensions at all? Curious things these dimensions.
     
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    That whole HOLOGRAPHIC UNIVERSE.....and I know your just kidding Wga......REALLY P!$$E$ ME OFF!!

    I was discusssing that idiotic idea and trying to explain that in order to generate a Hologram the Laser Light MUST REFLECT OFF SOMETHING....empty space would allow it.

    AboveAlpha
     
  12. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    The higher dimensions contain the physical description of space-time. Things like the electromagnetic particle/wave system exists because of these higher dimensions.

    Don't ask me for more details. That's for the physicists on this forum to describe. People like AboveAlpha, for instance, could tell you more.
     
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    I have talked about this so much that I just tell people to Google....Quantum Particle/Wave Forms List.

    I am SOOOO out of here soon!!

    I need a woman!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, well you don't know me as well as you think.

    I don't necessarily agree with the idea that we exist as 2D packets. But, I've been thinking about what might happen if they actually DO discover noise in space-time.

    I mean there are all of these effects like non-local existence, finite speed of light, and there's a multiverse to consider. What if space-time is its own quantum system and contains a divergent, interconnected, non-local graph description?

    I'm just not sure it's the Photon that would be the force-carrier for such a system.
     
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    Hold it....are you talking about NOISE...as in Audible Noise in Space? In a Vacuuum?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, not noise as a sound, noise as in static, as in a drift in values over time.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    LOL!!!

    Here let me copy and paste what you once said to me:

    ...regardless of whether our Universal Space-Time Geometry is 10...11 or more Dimensional states....EACH INDIVIDUAL DIMENSIONAL STATE expresses itself as a PHYSICAL NATURAL RULE of our Universes PHYSICS.

    So even though at the very least there must be 10-D for us to have FREQUENCY and Particle/Wave Duality....each individual dimensional state exists as a rule of Physics.​
     
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    Well....hat is basically rue to the extent of what Quantum Mechanics is showing us....but here could be 26-D...or more.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Yes more is better, probably, I was just on a String-theory Wikipedia article listing perhaps 28 dimensions.

    I would guess we're a long way off from detecting all of them though.
     
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    As I have said many imes...the REASONS why we are having such a hard time with Quantum Mechanics and developing a Unified Field Theory...is because we are looking at too small a system.

    Now....well...forget it.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Forget it? LOL, Tell me all your secrets! :grin:

    I would think that it would be difficult to detect something that you don't know what to look for.
     
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    We know EXACTLY what to look for....the connnection between the Quantum Universe and the Macro Universe.

    Unified Field Theory.

    Einstein worked on it in he Hospial on his death bed unil he died before finishing it....or did he?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Einstein worked on a speech as his final act in the hospital. Even assuming it was coded theory, he didn't finish it.

    :reading:

    Oh wait, silly me, you're talking about Einstein's last equation. Well, it's possible that Einstein finished up his math before moving on to written words.

    I don't know anything about the math to know how complete it is.
     
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    I posted a link to ou that describes possibilities in...

    LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment

    Read it to the end.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, the Philadelphia Experiment, again. Well, let's get this reading over with. :reading:

    Unified Field Theory aims to unite "the fields of electromagnetism and gravity into one field." Okay. First of all, they needed to know how gravity worked to test it.

    So let's say Einstein finished his work. But how can that be if Einstein died before finishing it?

    What if he worked on them before that last day at the hospital, surely he had some rough drafts lying around at least to dive into the subject?

    Who is this Allen / Allende fellow? He certainly gets around.

    Well, one suggestion was that Einstein talked with Bertrand Russell Who just happened to be pro-nuclear disarmament... and guess what Einstein's last words were? Railing against nuclear war.

    It's a rather large pointer... who else would Einstein trust with a secret hinging on whether mankind was ready?

    What might be Einstein's last words before death? : See: Best Answer
    There was also something about UTF powering UFO drives, but I'm not sure how that fits into the rest of the story.
     

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