Did Jesus believe he was God....

"Using a whip as a whip." How else? You don't have to physically strike someone with a whip to use it. You've seen Jesus literally whipping people on these shows?

 

I've never heard anyone claim that the voice Saul heard was Satan. Did you come up with this yourself or is it taught somewhere?

 

Do I like Paul? I wonder.. sometimes he contradicts the teachings of Jesus.

 

Technically Saul (Paul) didn't kill any Christians since Christians didn't exist when he was a bounty hunter. He killed members of the Way cult. Acts chapters 7-8. People didn't become Christians until Saul (Paul) and Barnabas converted the Gentiles in Antioch to their new religion = Acts 11:26. They also ran a con game on the new converts and had them send loot to the free-loaders in Judea = Acts 11:27-30.

 

OP...Jesus was a fantasy.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

 

Jesus was a Jewish preacher. Jews believe they are all sons of Jahweh. The disciples exalted Jesus to the title of the Son of God. They've put into his mouth words that no Jew would say.

 

Already answered the 1st time.
His claim. What makes any claim he has or anything he said true? Who can corroborate it?

 

My own.
Know one but Saul/Paul knows. Heck he may not even had a vision.
He contradicts Jesus. What is the path to salvation per Paul? Per Jesus?

 

I don't go in for conspiracy theories mate..

 

ROFL, the consp-theories are coming thick and fast, now you're telling us Paul was a con man..

 

I keep asking people in this thread to give specific verses where Paul contradicts Jesus, but so far nobody seems able to..

 

here you go

http://www.voiceofjesus.org/paulvsjesus.html

 

Paul's claim is a conspiracy theory. Else you could prove he even existed, much less some wild arse claim about a vision.

 

Careful, Paul was a Roman Citizen, not just some run-of-the-mill preacher..

 

Prove it. Outside the bible.

 

I asked you about the difference between Jesus and Paul in regards to salvation.
If you are interested you can find it.
Here in the USA we can use google or other search engine. I'm sure even England would have a search engine.

But here's a bone.

Jesus vs. Paul
Introduction

Controversy has arisen regarding Jesus versus Paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of Jesus and Paul.1 Jesus preached the kingdom of heaven. Paul did not. Paul preached justification by faith alone. Jesus did not. What are we to make of this? Can the two be reconciled? The answer depends on what is meant by reconciliation.

http://doctrine.org/jesus-vs-paul/

 

Here ya go..-
Sources outside the New Testament that mention Paul include:
Clement of Rome's epistle to the Corinthians (late 1st/early 2nd century);
Ignatius of Antioch's letter To the Romans (early 2nd century);
Polycarp's letter to the Philippians (early 2nd century);
The 2nd-century document Martyrdom of Polycarp.

 

Nah thanks I'm not really interested what cockamamie interpretations so-called "experts" try to put on anything..
Paul said "Follow Christ, not me, I wasn't crucified for you" (1 Cor 1:12/13)
and that's good enough for me, and so is this-

Jesus said-"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:5/6)
Jesus said:-"You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)
Re Jesus:- "There is no other name under heaven that can save us" (Acts 4:12)
"There is one mediator between God and men,- the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim 2:5)
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" (Heb 12:2)

 

Who was his boss priest before his transformation?
You said you'd answer that if I answered your question.

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As I suspected. A blind follower.
As self proclaimed expert, I say.

 

It amazes me how many people here hold to the Jesus is a myth idea. The Jesus of history is a well accepted fact by all but the most fringe scholars(Richard Carrier). Their numbers are miniscule compared to the scholars who don't deny the Jesus of history. I can't even take you serious when you suggest Jesus never existed. Whether he was what he claimed to be is another matter entirely. But the man, Jesus, most certainly existed in first century Palestine. And I don't need to see your link, I've heard all the arguments over and over again by the same 3 people.

 

earlychristianwritings.com has all you need. all these fools talking about what they don't know. all these atheists are giving christians a bad name!

 

Paul (Saul) was an admitted liar and thief.

1 Corinthians 9:20-23 (NKJV)
"20 and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law;21 to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ, that I might win those who are without law; 22 to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 Now this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I may be partaker of it with you."

2 Corinthians 11:8 (CEV) = "8 I robbed other churches by taking money from them to serve you."

So by Paul's own words he was a deceiver, pretending to be what he wasn't and a thief. Do the ends justify the means? Would he have been effective if he had originally been truthful? The Bible says that all liars will be excluded from the golden cube.

 

1- Paul's big boss was the high priest-
"Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem" (Acts 9:1/2)

2- The 27 books of the New Testament are fascinating historical accounts, nothing "blind" about them..

 

The high priest isn't a name or even a person. It's a title. Who is it?

 

Actually God did when he said, "this is my son" after jesus was baptized. And your idea that all jews thought they were the sons of god is nowhere near what is meant when jesus is said to be the son of god. And your absolutely right Jesus said things no jew would say....some of them even wanted to kill him because of it. this is common knowledge and a simple reading of the text will bring you to these conclusions.