Did North Korea's Kim Jong-un really kill his uncle with 120 starving dogs?

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    This is gruesome.. so gruesome that it can't possibly be true.. Can it?


    Did North Korea's Kim Jong-un really kill his uncle with 120 starving dogs?

    By Tim Stanley World Last updated: January 3rd, 2014


    The thing about North Korea is that it's so mad, so gruesome that it's difficult not to believe whatever tall story you hear about it. Kim Jong-un ate a baby? The army uses kittens for taget practice? Kim Jong-il's reanimated corpse stalks the countryside scaring children? It all seems possible.

    Which is why this story is so tempting. The Singaporean Straits Times reports that Chinese Media reports that Kim's recently slaughtered uncle was executed not by a firing squad but by a pack of hungry dogs. Look away if you have a weak stomach:


    According to the report, unlike previous executions of political prisoners which were carried out by firing squads with machine guns, Jang was stripped naked and thrown into a cage, along with his five closest aides. Then 120 hounds, starved for three days, were allowed to prey on them until they were completely eaten up. This is called "quan jue", or execution by dogs.

    The report said the entire process lasted for an hour, with Mr Kim Jong Un, the supreme leader in North Korea, supervising it along with 300 senior officials.

    How did Kim "supervise" it exactly? By handing out popcorn?

    Western news outlets are slowly picking up the story but I'd urge caution. North Korean media has made no reference to starved dogs, including in Kim's New Year's message – even though the chubby prince did describe his uncle as "filth" (and a Happy New Year to you, too, comrade!). Moreover, why were 120 hounds used when half a dozen would do? And why the audience of 300? It's all a bit James Bond, a bit shark-tank-in-an-underground-bunker.

    The source is questionable, too. If the Chinese knew about how Kim's uncle died, why didn't they talk about it sooner and why did the story only leak out through a Hong Kong news outlet? The incident was first reported by the Wen Wei Po newspaper on December 12, yet it's only now that The Straits Times has commented upon it – and only now that the Western media has started to take notice. The Straits Times is a respectable and widely read publication, but it's often been accused of being the mouthpiece of Singapore's ruling party and is staunchly anti-communist – so political bias is possible. Finally, we can't dismiss the possibility that China itself has fabricated or at least encouraged the story to send a message to Pyongyang. Kim's uncle was the architect of closer economic ties between the China and North Korea and there is thought to be a lot of anger about his death.

    My caution comes from bitter experience. A few months ago, I was one of many writers who fell for the claim that North Korean propaganda told its people that hungry Americans eat snow to survive. That turned out to be a fraud. But the problem with Kim's crazy "paradise" is that it's so thoroughly evil that it seems capable of any act of inhumanity. Including even this.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/t...ong-un-kill-his-uncle-with-120-starving-dogs/
     
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...to-120-dogs-as-officials-watched-9037109.html

    Excerpt from a second article.

    North Korea have already described Jang Song Thaek as “despicable human scum, worse than a dog,” but these reports, appearing in Hong Kong’s Wen Wei Po newspaper, suggest he may have met his end in the jaws of dogs.

    The account describes how Jang Song Thaek and five of his aides were stripped naked and fed to 120 hungry hounds, who had been starved for three days. The whole process lasted an hour, and as they were eaten hundreds of officials watched.

    The Singaporean Straits Times claims that the brutal account listed alongside a number of other criticisms in the report shows how Beijing is displeased with the changing regime, but currently there is no consistent editorial line in Chinese state media. The method of execution by dogs has also not been confirmed by North Korea.

    Previously it had been reported that a number of Jang Song Thaek’s aides were executed with anti-aircraft machine guns.

    Aidan Foster-Carter, a senior research fellow in Sociology and Modern Korea at Leeds University, told the Independent: “I put no cruelty past the North Korean regime, but it does sound extreme even for them. In the recent past, they did have an effigy of the South Korean president mauled by dogs.
     
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    Arghhhhhhhhhhh!...It reminds me of that scene in the movie Boys From Brazil where the Laurence Olivier character is set upon by a bunch of rabid dogs. It makes me wince thinking about it. I have a phobia with dogs after having been bitten by one as a child.
     
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    I don't blame you for being afraid...........
     
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    If that's how he died, he had it coming. Simple as that.
     
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    Meh , Chinese propaganda at it's worst .
     
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    Yeah there is no real way to know anything when it comes to North Korea. You have the truth, what people are told, and what people think happened. There are a few different versions of what went down to trigger the executions in the first place. I guess we just need to see this as "What happens in the hermit kingdom stays in the hermit kingdom"
     
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    He's a fat little dumb dumb that probably won't survive long.
     
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    Very disturbing if true.

    Sure we don't want to be taken in by an untrue vile slander, but OTOH we sort of welcome any opportunity to look away from the face of evil. We do know how power corrupts and the cruelty of man, especially one of no wisdom and no restraint. Remember Uday and Qusay?.
     
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    Sounds like a BS. Sorta "these barbarians are eating christian kids and drinking virgins blood" propaganda horror-story.
    I suspect that a firing squad of 120 hungry NorK soldiers is far more likely.
     
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    Well the Christians were thrown to the lions in Rome and the crowds cheered as they were ripped apart, so anything is possible. :confuse:
     
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    In the Rome you say.....excuse me, wasn't this stuff happening 2000 years ago? You know, before Rome became Christian itself?

    Kinda odd to bring it up.
     
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    The reliable information? >


    Kim Jong-un’s aunt possibly committed suicide
    North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's aunt and widow of executed eminence grise Jang Song-taek is believed to have died by her own hand, reports South Korean newspaper the Chosun Ilbo citing intelligence sources. As news outlet suggests, Kim Jong-hui, who disappeared from public after her husband’s death, could either committed suicide or died from a heart attack.

    Yet, the information couldn’t be imminently verified as, according to the outlet, agents keep working to find confirmation the news. There is also a possibility that she left abroad for medical treatment.

    She was last seen at the 65th anniversary of North Korea on Sept. 9 of last year and with Kim Jong-un and his wife Ri Sol-ju at a musical performance on Sept. 10. Despite the execution of her powerful husband, her name was on a list of dignitaries planning the funeral for a high-ranking Workers Party official who died in mid-December, so intelligence services here believed she was alive and well.
    Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_...ssibly-committed-suicide-S-Korean-media-8172/
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    Just like Shakespeare's play.
     
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    Koreans love their kegogi. The fatter the dog the better the meat.
     
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    The Korean war lord learned from the Arab filth Saddam Hussain who did simillar things back in the 80's
     
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    He proba did, like all communist leaders he is a ruthless phyco!
     
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    It says something about North Korea that this story is at all plausible. What a weird and nasty place!
     

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