Did WikiLeaks Sound the Death Knell of Western Tech Dominance?

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  1. Motti

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    Exactly three years after the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines MH370 on March 7 2014 (17:19 UTC time), the international whistleblowing site WikiLeaks dropped a bombshell on how the US Central Intelligence Agency could weaponize just about every "smart device" on the planet.

    The US intelligence community has turned the global village into a prison planet; one where bedrooms are no longer sacrosanct, bank accounts are no longer secure and national secrets can be retrieved from deceptively "secure" channels and archives. Smart cars can be remotely commandeered to snuff out pesky citizens who get in the way of a train wreck called the United States!

    But what apocalyptic scenarios were Year Zero and Zero Day referring to? Did Russia earlier get wind of them? Did the election of Donald Trump finally throw a spanner into the works?

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    How the global market treats US software post-Vault 7 revelations should be interesting.
     
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    It is a bit of a farce to talk about "western technical dominance" - when most of our technology (sans military stuff) is made in China !

    We have also lost much of our lead in terms of military technology. Our planes are mostly 1970's (F-16) era technology and the much vaunted F-35 we can't get operational and the thing is a lemon. Even if they do get the plane operational - such manned planes are almost obsolete due to the improvements in missile technology.

    Same goes for our carriers - obsolete floating cities of metal that have little defense against modern missile technology.

    Total Military Spending at the end of Clinton's term was roughly 300 Billion. After 8 years of Bush that number increased to over 900 Billion (much of it fighting useless wars with no return on investment) and under Obama spending topped 1 Trillion.

    If we would have maintained spending at 300 Billion (even increasing with inflation) we could have put 500 Billion/year x 16 years = 8 Trillion dollars on infrastructure, technology, ramping up our economy to compete in the third millennium.

    Instead we threw that money down the toilet - feeding the military industrial complex/ making the international financiers even more rich at the expense of our future economic security.
     
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    Absolutely. Bang on. Yet, why military planners are wasting all these money resources on fancy boondoggles beats me. I guess there is no better, faster and profitable way to generate commissions, kickbacks and slush funds.
     
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    The Oligarchs that pull the strings this country make money off of financing war (sometimes financing both sides) and they own the defense contractors ... and the drug companies that will profit from treating all the vets :)
     
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    The most scariest part is the privatized intelligence of the war machinery.
     
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    Soooo China has a MAUFACTURING dominance, not a technical dominance.
     
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    What should be taken away from the wilkileaks revelation and did not get near enough MSM coverage, for obvious reasons, is that we now know when the CIA, FBI or other agencies claim Russia did this in hacks or cyber warfare they no longer have anyway of knowing. For they and now every nation has their tools to cover up who was the aggressor while making it look like someone else. The CIA has risked our national security like no one has ever done in the history of this nation. So now, if these neocons want to blame an attack on our infrastructure on Russia, and go to war with them, they can no longer blame them, for it could have been anyone. We no longer can tell who the aggressor was. All the CIA can do is to lie about who it was. For they lost the ability to source the evidence. The CIA just made the world a much more dangerous place. You should have no doubt that in our future we will be attacked thanks to our CIA and Obama who increased their budget exponentially to develop this kind of cyber warfare tools which could not be protected.

    The thing to take away from this is also there is no way in the world for anyone to say Russia hacked the DNC. Yet this is what has been claimed by intel. ha ha ha If not for these leaks you would have to accept what our intel says. Even if ambassador murray had not busted out the Russian ruse. Even if McAfee had not told us Russia would not have used an old hacking software, leaving their finger prints behind so as to be caught. ha ha ha
     
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    Manufacturing is what you do when you have technical dominance :) What do you think happens when we manufacture something in China .... do you seriously think that the "don't" learn the technology ?
     
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    The tech learning curve indeed improves when there is an abundance of manufacturing, as is the case with China. Notice that China's military tech is still lagging behind the US (though they are learning fast) because the defence sector has not out-sourced manufacturing to China.
     
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    Another reason China is not building ships and planes like crazy is because this technology is rather obsolete.

    The way of the future is drones and AI - Smart missiles. Missile technology has advanced, and is advancing much faster than the ability of fighters and carriers to defend.
     
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    No, high labor Manufacturing is what you do when you have a labor force willing to work for penny's
     
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    Dixon - you are being obtuse. It is a well known historical fact that when you move manufacturing overseas - the place you move it to learns that technology. There are books written on the topic "Blood in the Streets" and "The Great Reckoning" (from the same Authors) are a few that I highly recommend. Very easy reading and they parallel the various cycles in history that happen during the rise and fall of empires.

    On of those cycles is as follows: Technological innovation - leads to military superiority- which leads to economic hegemony.
    This creates a big economic wave and much prosperity.

    As the economies mature it becomes more cost effective to manufacture outside the home country. Around the time supply is exceeding demand - the outside country has learned the technology and competition is springing up. This has a double whammy effect. Both competition and oversupply put downward pressure both prices and decrease market share.

    We are experiencing this right now.
     
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    I think, or hope, one of the results of Vault 7 being released is that people can not accept anything they hear from the establishment/Deep State on faith anymore. Any "information" I get from the government via the MSM is no longer information to me, but a puzzle piece or a chess move. "Why are they saying this?" "Who benefits from this message?" "Why are they not talking about a topic that should be getting much more coverage?" These are questions I always ask when I watch the news. I still find the MSM informative, but not for the reasons they would like.

    I really can't wait to see what else Wikileaks releases. I think they only released one percent of the information because if they were to release it all at once, it would be such a mind blow that people just wouldn't accept it. Baby steps.
     
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    We think in very similar ways. Perhaps because we actually pay attention to what is going on, and what is not covered in MSM, and then pay attention to what they choose to cover. When really big revelations are put into black out, there are reasons for that. They do not want their viewers to know and most times it would contradict what they are trying to sell their viewers. This isn't a working Press but something else. It looks like they have these brainwashed americans which must be fed, to keep the brainwashing safe.
     
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    Yup. I was gobsmacked by the MSM pro-Hillary behavior before the election, and I will never trust them again.

    Faux news is not as over the top as CNN, or MSNBC when it comes to fake news, but they are much sneakier. I really like Jeanine Pirro and Kennedy, but there are people on there I absolutely despise like Bill O'Reilly and that little weasel with a pull over, Greg Gutfeld. O'Reilly and Gutfeld have agendas. I know it. I have zero trust for those two.
     
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