Dilemma for LGBT community?

No sane or moral progressive can support hardline Islam. It is literally the equivalent of Jews supporting Nazis. Islam will not be as nice to gays and feminists as the Western Patriarchy has been. In Europe, though, these progressives are welcoming any and all Muslims into their nations and ultimately are brining out their own end. Without assimilation, there is no hope for Europe's immigrants to become European in thought.

Muslim men will not tolerate 3rd wave feminism or LGTB rights.

 

Ah, guess you need to have a little understanding of the English language to understand.

 

Another theory, more accurate, is I understand English fine, and realize when folks are not supporting their arguments.

 

Sorry you can't understand my comment or what the director of the FBI said.

 

He did not say what you claimed he said, hence I understand just fine.

 

That's the choice, isn't it? Except they already have been given the constitutional right to marry, so really the decision just got a lot easier.

But, there is still an issue for transgender men. Which matters more? Using the ladies public bathroom? Or you and your friends being shot to death or blown up with a bomb? Hmmm, that's a hard one.

There should be a man-in-the-street questioner of male trannies in front of public bathrooms:

"If you knew there was a man with a gun in the ladies restroom who will murder you, which bathroom would you use if you have to use one of those two?"

 

My comment (not in quotes if you even understand that) perfectly reflects what he said to Congress. Sorry you are not able to comprehend.

 

Well overall it appears that the Progressive Socialist "Democratic Party" in it's eight years administration of America has shown poor leadership and management in stabilizing the Economy, Jobs, National and Domestic Security allowing radicalization of Muslims within our country while allowing radicalized refugees into our country along with millions of illegal aliens. .

 

What guy? This thread is not about the Orlando incident.

 

No it isn't. Our intelligence community has warned us that the syrian refugees cannot be reliably vetted, and will likely contain some number of extremist plants. ISIS has said that is what they want to do. That is what they HAVE done, in the EU.

So, if you support the Syrian refugee stream coming here, then you're OK with all that. It's a risk you're willing to take. That's not a strawman, its just a simple deduction.

 

So basically we should pick between the party of hate or the party of stupidity

This country is so ****ed.

 

Christians refuse to bake them a cake.........Muslims throw them off of buildings and shoot them up in night clubs.......pick one.

 

Yep. As a party and as indicated by the many expressions of their platform, agenda and stated goals... the GOP is NOT accommodating toward those who fall lock-step in line with them. Republicans prove that with their own and certainly where they show problems with ethnic diversity.

Not that the DNC is perfect or sin-free... but that they DO NOT have the same general problems as the GOP.

 

Fair and excellent question!!

None. Democrats have proven for a LONG time (consistently) that they are not against LGBT; in reality, they were the first and most accepting of the same. The Republicans (conservatives) have been both slow and far more reluctant to accept (embrace) LGBT. That is no exaggeration, it is reality that is relatively easy to prove.

Probably.

Beware those (especially on this forum and sadly, beyond these pages) who are 'conservative' but express good will toward the LGBT; they are worth checking out (in various ways) before anyone buys what they are claim concerning LGBT.

 

Will likely? Who is this person that keeps saying this ridiculous things? That is simply made up.

 

(... not YET anyway.)

The reality is that Republicans (conservatives) show exactly what they think of LGBT, by the laws they seek to pass and their clear REACTIONS to laws already passed in favor of LGBT equality. If conservatives had more unilateral power (dominate all 3 branches of government), LGBT could practically kiss their freedoms/liberties 'goodbye'. Better that the POWER of conservatives be balanced by those of more liberal thinking... for many reasons, not only where it concerns LGBT rights.

 

The director of the FBI.

 

In September of 2015, James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence said: “As they descend on Europe, one of the obvious issues that we worry about, and in turn as we bring refugees into this country, is exactly what’s their background? We don’t obviously put it past the likes of ISIL to infiltrate operatives among these refugees. That is a huge concern of ours.”

In fact ISIS jihadis have already been caught in Syrian refugee stream in Europe: https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/...aught-crossing-into-europe-posing-as-refugees

On October 21, 2015, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director James Comey told the House Committee on Homeland Security that the U.S. government may not have the ability to vet thoroughly all Syrian refugees coming into the United States. He explained that if a Syrian person is not already in the FBI’s database, that person is unknown to the agency, leaving an inadequate basis for the person’s background to be screened for terrorism risk. “We can only query against that which we have collected,” Director Comey cautioned. He also said, “So if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home but we are not going to—there will be nothing … because we have no record on that person.”

The National Counter Terrorism Center warned that they have identified “individuals with ties to terrorist groups in Syria attempting to gain entry to the U.S. through the U.S. refugee program”
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These top level national security officials have warned us that there will likely be infiltration of the Syrian refugees who come here, and that there is no way we can possibly vet them all. There has already been infiltration of the refugees appearing in Europe.

It is ludicrous to suggest that they won't infiltrate the refugees who come here.

So, democrats who ignore these warnings are OK with some number of extremists in the refugee stream they are adamant to 'welcome' to our country. Keeping in mind, a single extremist caused 103 casualties a couple of days ago, how many ISIS extremists amongst the refugees is an acceptable number, so that we can bring these refugees here?

 

What warnings? Nowhere does anyone say "will likely" as you claimed. This is all just made up nonsense.

 

Welcome to the troll list. Enjoy the darkness.

 

Okay.

10char

 

So, for the others here who are not just trolling: Is there a dilemma here for the LGBT community?

Republicans are openly hostile to LGBT issues, democrats are 'welcoming' streams of people who want to throw LGBTs off buildings and shoot up their gatherings. Libertarians seem like a better option, to me, than either of those for LGBT. How do you vote, this time?

 

Yeah, uh....probably not going to happen. While there are certainly gay folks on the right and who support candidates on the right, I really can't see the rest of them deciding, against logic and past history, to support the party which villifies them including comparing them to child molesters, and does has done it's best to roadblock any progress towards equal ground.

 

I don't either, however, supporting the party who is actively seeking to 'welcome' streams of people who are ideologically motivated to KILL them doesn't seem like a much better option. In fact, it seems worse, if you ask me. The dilemma is this: Do I support the party that opposes me politically, or the party that supports me, but is adamant to bring in people who want to, literally, kill me? Or, are the Libertarians a better fit than either?