Disney sues Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over loss of special district

So in essence you feel that allowing children around anything is grooming them?

Do you feel churches should be taxed since their entire existence is grooming the next generation? They just call it proselytizing.

 

Matters not to me. Christianity has little to do with me.

 

Are Jewish Temples taxed? Are Mosques taxed? I don't know, but if they are not then none of them should be, if they are then all of them should be.
Yeah a kid sitting in church for 40 minutes hearing some bible stories and being encouraged to do good for them and their neighbors sounds like super grooming to me, haha. I think you are a little overly flexible with that word.

 

Not my point. Every large group of people has bad apples.

 

I agree

So what does the word grooming mean to you then? You seem to have an issue with children knowing gay people exist but being fed a religious agenda that celebrates mass genocide and eternal torture is preferable.

Contrast that definition to proselytizing

 

If I send my 14 years son to PRIDE party or watch “ slave built America”

What is DeSantis / Gov of FL problem?

 

I think his problem is common sense. Child grooming organizations should not receive special tax breaks and other special privileges. If they were only targetting 14 year olds this wouldn't be as big a problem. We all know its more like the 4-12 range they want to sink their grooming claws into. 14 year olds are not as impressionable.

 

So what does the word grooming mean to you then? You seem to have an issue with children knowing gay people exist but being fed a religious agenda that celebrates mass genocide and eternal torture is preferable.

Contrast that definition to proselytizing

 

What makes a person " gay "? Their sexuality choices. Children have NO business being involved in that. It isn't about gay. If biological females were going into elementary schools and giving twerking lessons, i'd be equally as offended as when they let drag queens do it.
I don't support religious agendas either. I'm 100% opposed to this forcing of the 10 commandments in the texas schools.
Although it pales in comparison. Teaching kids not to steal and murder as opposed to teaching them they can be a boy or a girl no matter what they were born as? That's pretty bad IMO.
I don't know what that other word means and I'm not gonna look it up. You are free to share the definition if you'd like though. As far as MY definition of grooming, its imposing sexual, political and religious beliefs on children in what is supposed to be a PUBLIC institution. with the SEXUAL one being the WORST kind

 

Disingenuous.

 

Disney sues Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over loss of special district.

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Just to let you know I had a comment removed and have used this post by you to show that similar comments are allowed to remain. I have appealed and we'll see what they say.

 

So by the same metric you are against heterosexual characters then, yes? What makes a person heterosexual? Their “sexuality choices”.

Should we ban books like Snow White? Honestly most books that have a couple in them. Just to be consistent, yes?

Has nothing to do with my question. And I agree, we shouldn’t be having “twerking” lessons from anyone in school.

I don’t think we should teach children they can change their sex but we should teach tolerance.

Why did you capitalize public? Do you believe it becomes ok to groom children as long as it’s at a charter or private school?

 

Well heterosexual is NATURE. If our parents both had bottom surgery, we never would have been born, so yeah, not really a fair comparison IMO.
I agree on the teaching tolerance part 100% but maybe not so young? Maybe at such a young age they keep it simple? something like "there are many different people out there and we should not discriminate" (i mean that is what the story of the ugly duckling is meant to teach)
Again, I don't see Christian teachings or teachings from any religion as "grooming". I capitalized public to make the distinction that religion should be kept out of it.

 

As is homosexuality, it appears in hundreds of animal species and some of those animal species mate for life with complex family bonds.

You are trending down the “my grooming is ok because I like it and yours isn’t ok because I don’t”.

Gay people don’t have bottom surgery. That’s a small part of trans people.
And non of this has to do with storybook characters.

So you don’t support the FL law pushing this until grade 12 then?

It is 100% grooming.

Grooming at its base level is to try to prepare someone for a specific activity or purpose. Now contrast that to this:


So you have previously said that having gay characters is sexual topic in books but having heterosexual ones isn’t because “nature”. And now you are saying religion isn’t grooming after saying it was.

Let me know when you have figured out your position and we can continue because the above doesn’t add up.

 

Sure we can call homosexuality nature if you want. (I suppose technically it is). I do believe its nature's way of population control. It is not how the human race survives though and to make babies, a member of both genders is required. If I could re-do that last response, I would have used a different word than "nature"

12th grade is extreme IMO.

I don't get the "attempting to convert people to a religion" thing. If Christian parents put their kids in a private catholic school or something like that, so what? It isn't like they ripped Jewish kids off the street and forced them into a Christian school. The only example I can think of is this 10 commandments thing in Texas and I am not down with that. Most of the concepts of the 10 commandments are great, they can teach them without religious angle if its a public institution.

I don't remember saying I had a problem with gay characters in books but I've never caught you lying before so I'll take your word for it. I do know the book that started all the controversy was basically like porn and had explicit oral sex stuff in it. I find that extreme for kids.

We won't ever agree on the "grooming" thing. Think we can just agree to disagree on this one? If your going what you described as base level grooming, then sure, i guess we can call it ALL grooming then, but that isn't really my view on it. Again, thanks for the objectivity and non-hyper partisanship. as always, its been a pleasure debating with you. gotta go for a bit but i'll probably be creeping around here later

Have a good one!

 

Disney laid a trap and De Santos walked right into it. Let's see how much the people of Florida will be required to compensate Disney.

 

OK, so did DeSantis use his power as governor to punish all the companies of every convicted pedophile in Florida ?

 

Show us where the DISNEY corporation “groomed children”…

 

You think 4 years old boy or girl from Chicago on his/her own going to Disney and attend PRIDE Party ?

What happened to “ Smaller Government” , “Government stay out of my privet life” conservatism? It looks like Big Government , Big Brother telling me I have no common sense where my Kid can go , which party to my kid attend.

 

Perhaps, that would explain why very high density leads to more occurrences of it. That doesn’t however bypass that you feel a homosexual character in a book is grooming children while a heterosexual character is not.

Why do you feel one is only a sexual activity while the other isn’t when they are fairly similar to one another beside the sex of one of the partners.

Indeed
It’s almost like it has nothing to do with children and is only about targeting gay people.

The only way religion survives is to convert new members.

I am discussing the laws being passed, not your words directly. They are banning anything that has anything to do with gay characters, pride, even gay teachers have been advised not to have photos of their spouses. The only book I know of that could be considered porn that is in some schools is gender queer, and it is supposed to be limited to age 15 and up. I agree young children shouldn’t have access to it

I have an issue agreeing to disagree when laws like this are being passed to target gay people and bar any representation from school under the guise of not sexualizing them.
How is Snow White with a male and female not a sexual book but if it’s the prince becomes a princess it suddenly becomes sexual?

We must address the cognitive dissonance that allow these bills to do what they are doing.

Cheers

 

Why would they want their kids watching such bad entertainment. Are they trying to raise them to have terrible taste that's a crime.

Put on Disney films for '80s and '90s that's when they were beautiful and good. Making them watch this modern crap that's horrendous and ugly seems to be cruelty to children.

 

Children have no business knowing “sexuality choice”. Great, teach that to your children. Teach that in Christian school where you children go. But as a father if I want to send my kids to learn about “sexuality choice” , Pay $109/ per day in Disney, I want you to keep your “ morality” to yourself.

Or you think you need to impose your “morality” to my children?

 

I hate Disney. With a passion.

But in this case they have a point. Ronda Fascist has used his position to retaliat agaist them for no reason other that they pissed him off. That's a blatant abuse of power and cannot stand.

 

You mean like variolous christian churches?