Divorce

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  1. JeffLV

    JeffLV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I just read an opinion piece that had some, in my opinion, rather surprising statistics regarding divorce:

    And thus the argument is made for no-fault divorce.Yet I don't think that's the entire answer. The article talks of a "conservative push" to slowly restrict divorce and eliminate no-fault. I don't know whether this is true or not, but to some degree I'm sympathetic. I don't agree with the idea of a "quickie divorce", at least not without good cause, but I also don't think that forcing an unhappy marriage to continue benefits any involved party... whether it's the couple, the kids, the state, or the divorce attorneys :).That said, I'm fine with the idea of required waiting periods for no-fault divorces and maybe even counseling, although I don't think it needs to be extensively long. A few months, at most. Any thoughts?
     
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    Lots of thoughts. My state has a waiting period. The legislature is conservative. The legislature has taken steps to speed up divorces. I am not sure anyone should take talk of stopping no-fault divorce seriously.
     
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    Burz New Member

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    I'm thinking people who want to get divorced have probably already had plenty of time to think about it.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    In general, divorce should be avoided. Marriages are generally as happy or unhappy as people want them to be.
     
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    Burz New Member

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    Blow it out your ass. Mind your own business.
     
  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I have to raise my family in a society defined by rampant divorce and family breakdown.

    Thus, it is my business whether you or anyone else likes it or not.

    And this BS about "it is my private life it doesn't effect anyone else" is ridiculous.

    People love to live this fantasy that something is a "private matter" and "doesn't effect anyone else".

    anyone ever have to work alongside with someone going through a nasty divorce for months and even years on end? Or work alongside anyone going through some kind of marital or family problems.

    I'll give you a clue. It can be hell whether you have any interest in their personal life or not.
     
  7. Burz

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    ...And? What? You think it's a bad influence on your children?

    I see, so your solution is to keep them together. Maybe their nasty relationship will get better. I see that you were right about this issue. I apologize.
     
  8. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

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    People who cheat don't cheat out of the blue. The odds are there were trust issues before the marriage. For example, the wife is surprised her husband cheated, but forgot that when they met, he cheated with her on someone else. Or, the nerdy rich guy thought the tall bombshell loved him and couldn't believe it when she ended up with another better looking guy. Many people get married without really knowing who they're marrying then are surprised when things don't work out. Like, she never told me how much debt she actually had. Whooops!!! What, you didn't notice that her job didn't quite match up with what she owned. Use your brain buddy. Same in reverse. Make sure the guy's possessions match his job. How many volatile relationships turn into marriages, then end up in divorce? Shocking, right? Yeah, they never saw it coming. How many marry for the looks, then are ASTONISHED when it gets boring after a few years. How many marry a princess, then get annoyed by her after a few years? How many women marry a wealthy workaholic, then get surprised that over time he spends less and less attention to you. HELLO? You thought he would change? How many women marry guys who have little interest in kids, then are SHOCKED when once they have kids, the men still have little interest in them. When you marry someone you marry their family too. A messed up family is going to cause problems. If your in-laws don't like you or your parents don't like your soon to be spouse...be afraid. If your friends don't like your fiance, think about WHY that is and reevaluate. Either you're crazy or your friends are crazy, but then what kind of friends are they if you're seeing very different things. How many times does a friend or family member say, "I know he/she was not good for you" AFTER the fact? Might want to get that information out of the way BEFORE marriage. Basically if you're seeing something different than everyone around you, the odds are something is clouding your vision. Find out what that is, FAST!!!

    Basically, too many people jump into marriage or are forced into it. You have to WANT to get married and for the right reasons.
     
  9. Burz

    Burz New Member

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    Let's not get too Foolardi.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have known people that have gone through divorce and it often gets ugly.. then once the divorce is complete, the friction goes away, both seem to get on with their lives again.. long drawn out divorces seem to be the worst for all involved

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  11. Dayton3

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    Yes on both counts and thanks.

    Nasty relationships simply don't develop out of the blue you know. People don't simply grow apart either. The trouble is most people that get divorced is due to character flaws that they took into the relationships to begin with.

    Ever wonder why SECOND marriages are many times more likely to fail than first ones? Because you have at least one of the same persons involved and they carry their personal failures with them into yet another marriage. They also have now gotten the mentality that a marriage is "disposable".
     
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    Just think of divorce as the screwing one gets for the screwing one got.:icon_fork:
     
  13. Burz

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    No, sometimes one of them is a psychopath.

    You can get rid of it any time you like but I could try and stop you if that's what you want.
     
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    The Obama's headed for splitsville?...
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    EXCLUSIVE: MICHELLE WALKS OUT AS OBAMA DIVORCE BATTLE EXPLODES!
    April 3, 2014 ~ IN a major behind-the-scenes blowout, President BARACK OBAMA and first lady MICHELLE waged their worst White House fight ever over her lavish vacation trip to China!
     
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    I don't know if this is true...probably is...but its shared by zillions of other couples where a spouse makes it all about them and the other spouse picks up the pieces by dealing with it. Its sad that so many marry now...in a frivilous nature...never intending to keep the commitment and not even knowing fully their partner. Marriage simply isn't fair. Its a commitment.
     
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    You know what is odd--I dismiss these stories and at least once I found out it was true. I know someone who had a relative who worked with the Capitol Police. They told a story about Hillary throwing a lamp at Bill when she was having a tirade. I didn't believe the story, but somewhere along the way a few years ago, I am fairly certain I saw it referenced somewhere in the press that Hillary had once thrown a WH lamp at Bill.
     

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