Do 2 adults have a right to have sex with each other?

There's no Constitutional right to have sex in the US Constitution or any State Constitution. The Federal government explicitly does not have the authority to regulate sexual behavior, and the Supreme Court has overturned State sodomy statutes on a 14th Amendment basis. I'm not certain I understand the legal theory behind that, but I'm grateful that the government does not have the legal authority to control my sex life; they certainly never had the moral authority to do so.

Of course, there are still quite a number of sexual matters in which the government mistakenly believes it has a legitimate interest. I would like to see them disabused of this notion as soon as possible.

 

In a secular civil society the government has NO business regulating what 2 consenting adults choose to 'in their bedroom(s)' or anywhere else in private. What a moronic question. One of the reasons I've chosen 'amazed' for my 'mood'. I can't believe some of the dumb assed questions people pose on 'forum' sites.

 

I guess relationships don't mean as much as women claim in their gender studies.

 

Two adults legally and physically capable of giving consent have the right to have sex with not just the other person, but multiple people if they want, as long as they don't violate incest laws.


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Me thinks you need to quit looking at porn.

 

why? i am getting used to modern women being their modern selves in modern times. i sometimes "roleplay" that the women getting used are my girlfriend, and I have to watch, because I lost the bet.

 

They haven't been "struck down" they're just not enforced...

The OP's question is kind of ridiculous tho..... I'm not even clear on what he/she is asking.. Can the state forbid adults from sexual relations? no, not unless there is a restraining order between the two adults....

For example legally I can have sex with anyone 17 or older in Illinois.

 

I don't know if having sex is a right. But any consenting adults in their own home or hotel for that matter, if both agree, no problem. The constitution didn't address sex as in intercourse. That is the framers didn't make having sex a right or prohibit it. I suppose this could fall under the 10th Amendment, but the 10th Amendment has been pretty much made irrelevant with the all powerful central government we have. Besides,,what, is written in black and white on paper means little, the constitution means only what those 9 black robed justices says it means.

So whether two or more consenting adults can have sex without constraints is up to the SCOTUS, as they tell us what the constitution says and they have the final say.

 

you just answered your question because there is nothing in the constitution about sex it is left up to the states to decide
now only thing that you might be able to use so to get a constitutional rights in play is the right to privacy

 

I'd say Lawerence v Texas is a precedent that would make it pretty darn hard for a state to restrict sex between consenting adults.

 

I would say sodomy laws haven't been enforced for quite some time.....

I suppose if the OP really want's a yes or no answer it would be no. No, two willful adults of age cannot be stopped by the state from having sex unless there is a restraining order or something - even then the restraining order would have to be invoked and well, that wouldn't make the two parties "willful" and it would have nothing to do with sex....

 

yes, imo any two consensual adults of sound mind should be able to choose to have sex with each others

 

What is currently enforced isn't the issue as far as I can detect. The issue is what COULD be enforced.

We DO have laws related to who may have sex, however. There are age related laws, for example. There are also laws related to consent, including who has the capacity to give consent. There are incest laws.

I'm not sure of a possible basis of a restraining order barring sex between two specific individuals where the act wasn't already covered by law.

 

Yes. But why FORCE others to watch it happen? Because that is what it has come to. I don't look at porn, and I have no desire to know what happens in the privacy of a sex act between consenting adults. So stop trying to force me to.

 

I clearly state the restraining order would have nothing to do with sex..... All that would be about is preventing two individuals from seeing one another - weather or not they have sex would be irrelevant.

As far as consent - absolutely states have different laws on the age of consent, here in Illinois it's 17, in some states it's as low as 14 with parental consent (which is bizarre)....

Of course every state has sodomy laws, they're just not enforced and would be extremely difficult to enforce in our present day..... They haven't been repealed - they're just not enforced....

 

have you seen the flat earth thread

http://www.politicalforum.com/conspiracy-theories/447632-earth-flat.html

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Why? Are you thinking of finally taking the big step

 

So what about on college campuses:
Students are required to ask each other permission before every touch. The fact that a woman kisses a man does not mean he may place his hands on her rear end even lightly at first. Just like criminal rape, it is only enforced if she reports it, at which time it is enforced just the same. Thus, if two people want to fondle each other and don't want to ask permission, they must first enter a verbal contract explicitly stating the range of activities they may do without asking. If they fail to set up the agreement in advance, they are in violation of the rule. Also, the person complaining may do so at any time in the future. The fact they did not complain sooner is not relevant. All that matters is the technicality that they did not ask first. The result is that men who feel pressured to stop asking all the time for fear of their girlfriend thinking they are socially inept can be sanctioned any time in the future that she chooses to invoke the rule. Furthermore, even if he does ask at every step, who will believe that? It is very believable he failed to at one point.

Do schools and governments have the right to pass such rules or laws? I think that violates people's freedom of expression.

I think it is reasonable people should have to have a clear reason to believe a stranger wants to be kissed before doing so, and a court should agree it was a good reason. However, once the kissing starts, unless either stated it would only be that (as apposed to yes you may kiss), they should be allowed to lightly progress gradually as long as no type of force or evasion of the other person's will is used. If someone starts to go too far, just indicate so in any number of ways. I think they should also need a clear reason to believe penile insertion is desired before doing so.

I've emailed and spoke to my campus's Title 9 officer and Vice President of Student Affairs. They said that the rule does mean getting permission before each touch. They said they might make exceptions, but that they like having flexibility to just use the consent rule if they want. They refused to update it to my suggestion.

So, I'm thinking of filing a federal lawsuit invoking the chilling effect doctrine, on the grounds that their rules chill people's freedom of expression beyond the extent of public interest. So, my question to you all is whether you think I have a case in federal court.

 

Consent is a biggie because it is control over one's own body, but once consent can be and is given, then really, as many people as they want can have sex whichever way they want.

 

Yes, obviously they have that right. That also includes incest in my opinion.

 

should women make like "female alligators and simply wander through our neighborhoods, and put their chin on our head" when they want us to just use them?

 

You do have control over your body without affirmative consent. If you don't want a guy to kiss you, don't kiss him. If you do kiss him and he kisses you back without asking for permission, you can tell him to stop, but you have no right to have him punished.

Affirmative consent is about controlling men after the touch with the threat of reporting him. It is not about getting people to actually ask. Few people would want to date someone who asked before every touch. It is so unpersonal and implies they are strangers.

 

You must first acquire and carry the Horga'hn, if you wish women to know you desire Jamaharon.

 

Umm... I just said consent, I never mentioned affirmative consent.

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Not sure what that allegory is supposed to mean.

 

It has finally come to fruition, Intellectually advanced White folks have finally figured out a sure fire way to ruin sex for
Everybody !

It was inevitable.