Do people on the Right want the "less fortunate" to suffer and/or die?

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  1. Object227

    Object227 Well-Known Member

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    A question for anyone on the Left: Do you think that the Right wants the less fortunate to suffer and/or die?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    The less fortunate should exploit the opportunities the US offers to stop being less fortunate and free themselves from those who exploit them.
     
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    That doesn't answer my question.
     
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    The "right" wants the less fortunate to move up in the world, not die and suffer...that's the sort of end results you see in places like Venezuela...
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They have said, that they want my heat failure to result in my death. They said THAT, would be making America great. I had MY TIME, and when they get ill, they TOO, will choose death, so the herd will frolic.

    There are a lot of sickass sociopaths, that parade as Trump or right wing supporters. They say this to my face.

    They also have said, that if I am not in a wheelchair, when I park in a handicap, even if I have a placard, they would continue to call police on me, till I stop parking in handicap.

    This country is full of sick, hostile people.

    They use the EVERYONE can succeed, schtick, to avoid to sociopath label.


    My OWN sociopathic sister, said, that no matter how ill I am, she thinks that work should be wheeled up to my bedside, if need be, and I should be geven a quota, to fulfill, or I would be starved. She doesn't think SHE should pay taxes, for anyone.

    She said this to my face.

    Far from FAMILY being able to fill the gap, mine wish me dead. My own father, while I lived in another county, said he used to fantasize about me ALREADY being dead. And when I didn't react well enough, he added, AND I LIKED IT.

    These are Trump supporters, one and all.
     
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    No, they do not want them to suffer or die, but there is a significant difference between the left and the right about what to do or not do. Example: People on the left would generally want to expand medicaid and are willing to pay for it, people on the right cite the expense of medicaid and question its long term effectiveness.
    Words such as "cruel" and "lazy" only cloud the issue.
     
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    I think it does. I don't want anyone to suffer, especially those who through no fault of their own have been caught in the death grip of their exploiters. Conservatives want everyone to succeed. Liberals set people up for failure so they will be forever dependent. That's why Liberals love and strive for working fathers to leave the family so children will be brought up in single parent homes. Not having a father figure in the home is virtually a guarantee of failure. The Liberals' dream.
     
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    There are extremists on both sides of the aisle, and found in the ranks of the extreme, I'm certain that you will find your statement to be true. But I would never make the general assertion that 'the right' wants the less fortunate to suffer and/or die.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They want to use POLITICAL HANDCUFFS, to create these conditions, while sluffing off all blame, as the CONSTITUTION says to. It is called strict constructionist, or such.
    Or they pretend to be godly, and say, it is in gods hands. If he wants yyou dead, who are we to interfere.
     
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    Generalizations - on either side - do nothing to move the country forward. Yes, there are hypocritical folks on the right, but we see the same on the left. Making or supporting blanket statements are dangerous thing...we need to move past them.
     
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    Fine, when YOU are healthy and secure. NOT so fine, when they are ALL clamoring for your suffering. I have not spoken to ONE DAMN right winger, that does NOT choose a country where the CONSTITUTION requires that we ignore suffering, as THEY CHOSE IT.

    This is NOT a generality. And compromising with Jeffrey Dahmer, still results in your being eaten.

    Ask Angela Merkel, whether she should NEGOTIATE with the FASCISTS. She says WE ALL have an obligation to FIGHT fascism, as it is gaining, and will result in human suffering, if we do not.
     
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    You apparently have a chronic illness, and unfortunately seem to blame other people wanting you to 'suffer and die'. I have a chronic illness. If I were to take that extreme standing, then surely those that support the idea of 'go away ad die', who see me as a hopeless factor and dead weight.

    But that's not my plan. I do without what I have to, to make sure I get the care that I need. And if someone doesn't like that, they are not my concern.
     
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    WOW, your own dad and sister feel that way about you? Got to wonder if it's you, or is your family all just evil? one of the two
     
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    YEah? I went without a penny, for years. And, as soon as I saw a penny, Medicaid was gone. If not for being fed, I would have starved. Obviously, you, and all the other right wingers that brag about their INDEPENDENCE, are STILL ABLE to work.
     
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    YEs, then they say that FAMILY should care for the unfortunate. And when famly doesn't foot the bill, they say that you are BAD, and therefore should suffer. SICK ASSS right wingers.
     
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    The people on the left need the less fortunate to remain less fortunate it is absolutely essential to their entire worldview and every policy decision. They know no better way to oppress in control then to keep the less fortunate less fortunate.
     
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    I've never heard anyone suggest the Constitution requires people to ignore people who are suffering...in particular from those that ID on the right...because in fact people that ID on the right are far more willing to donate more of their time and money to help the less fortunate. Dems don't.

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2014/10/17/Who-s-More-Generous-Liberals-or-Conservatives

    Even dispite on average making less money, Consertives give much much more...https://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/statistics/u.s.-generosity

    Roughly 6% less income, but give 30% more.

    It's clear...that it's the left that doesn't think the suffering should be helped.
     
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    I'm not sure what you are trying to say in this post.
     
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    Bit on the hyperbole side of things, but apparently, you were making an income if I translated correctly.

    Yup, still able to work, and save, and put by, and do without. Still able to afford my medications, still able to afford my expenses that let me continue to live. If YOU are no longer working as you put forth, then you would normally qualify for assistance. No one has said those truly disabled should not receive assistance, but you certainly try to paint it that way.

    So which is it?
     
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    Then they say, charity would function like a dream, cept for those selfish libs. THEIR FAULT.
     
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    Pretty clear. They say that FAMILY is the PROPER way to deal with illness and disability. Then, when family, for WHATEVER REASON, lets you suffer, it MUST be you, as FAMILY is the proper way to deal with illness and disability, wash rinse repeat.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I made not one red cent. My employer even tried to screw me out of unemployment and state temporary disability. I RUINED them to the judge.

    When you are unable to work, and all your right wing buddies say, I sure hope family will bail you out, cuz we don't believe in that, you will change. OR NOT. Many in the TEA PARTY were disabled.
     
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    Your statement has several inconsistencies, which puts your whole claim at peril....
    Perhaps your first problem was relying on someone else, rather than yourself.
     
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    OR, perhaps the right wing can ALWAYS find how you are a liar, or are at fault, or brought it on yourself, or you are bad, or, God willed it. OR OR OR OR OR. ALWAYS winds down to this.

    Im alright jack, keep your hands offa my stack.



    For your info, both state disability and unemployment are time limited. DISABILITY, unless you have less than six months to live, SWORN to by a doc, means you will have to survive FIVE YEARS. Try it.
     
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    That sounds terrible, but what does that have to do with everyone on the right?

    Most of the people I know on the right will gladly help those less fortunate than themselves, many giving well beyond the mandated taxes to those in need.

    Besides, anyone that would wish their own family harm is garbage, and garbage is not exclusive to any group.
     
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