Do people with low IQs have less rights?

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  1. DarkDaimon

    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Hmm... Canada and most of Europe seem to be ok with it.
     
  2. Chuz Life

    Chuz Life Active Member Past Donor

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    Okay....

    and....

    That refutes my point - how?

    I wonder what their 'man on the street' interviews would be like.
     
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    I agree with you whole heartedly, but I would also add that they are not entitled to special consideration either. In recent years, there has been a movement to lower standards to so that people with lower abilities can compete without being challenged by their lack of abilities. A prime example is the new Common Core Math Standards. You may have heard about it. You know, 3 X 4 = 11. Kids do not have to get the right answer, just be able to explain how they got the wrong answer is enough. I call that dumbing down the standards. And they wonder why the US lags the rest of the world in education.

    https://www.teachingchannel.org/videos/teaching-math-ccss
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Good question. Anyone on this forum from Canada or Europe? If so, do you like your country?

    Now, until someone answers, I did find these articles about the happiest countries in the world and the strange thing is that it is mostly European countries at the top.

    http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/06/where-are-the-worlds-happiest-countries/
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/worlds-happiest-countries-2013-australia_n_3347347.html

    Take them as you will.

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    Yeah, but that is new, and America has been lagging in education for awhile compared to the rest of the world.
     
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    The UK is going to drown in a rising tide of welfare breeding garbage.
     
  6. Chuz Life

    Chuz Life Active Member Past Donor

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    As is the U.S. if we don't do something about it - and soon.

    It may already be too late.
     
  7. rkhames

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    This is not the first attempt to dumb down education. They have been doing it for years.
     
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    It all depends on how low. They don't have less rights, but rights can be taken away from them--namely the right to bear arms and the right of self-determination. I'm primarily talking about people who's IQs are so low that they can't take care of themselves without assistance.
     
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    People with lower IQ shouldn´t have less rights, but at the same time they shouldn´t have more rights! But this is what happens within the European Union and its member states which have issued female quotas (and there is no end in sight) and thereby have given women the possibility to get jobs that they wouldn´t be able to get if it just would hang on the IQ and the qualifications.

    BTW, if you claim that women´s IQ is higher than that of men, then check out the study of John Philippe Rushton.
     
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    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    Wow. I can almost feel your sense of relief at being able to find some evidence upon which to blame your seeming contempt of America.

    'Phew, here is an article that justifies my existing belief that America deserves to be ragged on. And, of course, dissing America makes me popular with the really cool guys I hang with, who ALL hate America but ADORE Obama!'

    Your ignorance about America's current state of health makes one wonder if you've been paying attention the past four+ years...or if, instead, you've been sedating yourself with the news from the fawning, corrupt Left-Wing media all this time.
     
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    And, grammatically, it should be, "Do people with low IQs have FEWER rights?" Not, "less" rights.
     
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    Not to cause a significant derail, hopefully, but the dumbing down of education starts with a national teacher's labor union which see's it's priority as being to improve the lot of teachers, first, and their dedication to the kids, second.

    End of derail.
     
  13. rkhames

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    You are 100% right, but it carries on through to the Liberal Revisionist text book reviews that take place every few years. Their priority is enforcing Liberal indoctrination over education.
     
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    Amen, brother!
     
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    (My bold)

    If the paleobiologists are correct, this would mean that all of humanity has to go back to Africa. Most of the World has been crisscrossed by various conquering tribes of peoples, & I don't know how you would ever get agreement on which tribes/peoples should remain on which land.

    Messy as it is, unjust as it is, as full of accidents & happenstance as it is, the present World has the one virtue of already existing. Nothing further is required to bring it into being - which, in the current incarnation of humanity & our polities, is about all you could reasonably expect us to agree upon.
     
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    most democrats have very low iqs and they have the same rights as everyone...just not smart enough to know them
     
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    (My bold)

    That's not strictly true. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States - especially the timeline. The franchise has gradually been extended to white men without property, non-white men, women, Native Peoples, poor, etc. It's barely closing on 200 years since the property ownership requirement for white men has been repealed - & so it's premature to say that everything will work out just fine.

    & of course, there's no guarantee that the leading lights of our past nor current population are not also stupid.
     
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    (My bold)

    Yah, that explains how the TX State Board of Education, in its near-infinite wisdom, managed to drum Prexy Thomas Jefferson out of the canon of Founding Fathers. Broke his sword, stripped him of his rank & insignia, & marched him out of the fort. Last I knew, he & Thomas Paine & various other forgotten leading lights had lit out for the Territories ...
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    You are correct.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    My contempt of America? Because I brought up some links that answered your question "I wonder what their 'man on the street' interviews would be like"? Not sure where you are getting that from, I actually love my country and while we may be on a downswing, I have confidence that we will make it through. We've made it through worse.
     
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    This is a question I have been asking myself for some time now and I actually think you may be under thinking things. Lets say there is a chimp that has a higher IQ than a human child with autism of the same relative age. Normally the human would have far more rights than the chimp. Human supremacism is what is occurring. We naturally treat beings better the closer we are to them. It would be easier for the average person to kill a random person than a friend. If your brother or sister was black and you were white you would be far less racist than someone who had a sibling of the same race. In the end humanity has to decide if we are going to judge ourselves as above others because of our supreme right as humans, or if we will recognize the rights of others that we do not and cannot understand. I believe humans are not better than other life forms. The question is how should we judge life forms. Intelligence, social behavior, or something else. We judge social behavior more important because we are social. Shooting a deer is not animal cruelty but shooting a dog is. The only reasons we think a certain way is right is because that is what our parents taught us that. Humanity only advances because of the people that can forget what they were taught and have ideas that most don't agree with.
     
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    Oh, well if I am mistaken I apologize.
     
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    Yes.

    if fact fools make other people live painfully, many people really want to kill some fools.
     

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