Do The People Have The Moral Authority To Outlaw Atheism?

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does that support your claim - this above is mindless nonsense .
     
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    Because from that description, it didn't look to me to be a movie "on the topic" (as you said) of Eugenics. And I'm pretty confident that every other person on the planet would also get that impression.

    What, as in the description is inaccurate?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Movie is based on the classic nature nurture debate - and it is not the first movie of its kind - and I explained these things to you... pester me no further on the issue -
     
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    Okay, and I have demonstrated that the IMDB page for the film makes no mention of this. Simple!
     
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    Simple is the proper word -
     
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    Again, I have demonstrated that the IMDB page for the film makes no mention of Eugenics.
     
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    No one said it did - your point is mute - and worthless.

    I have explained to you what happens in the film - the central premise. Explained Biological Determinism - yet you keep using the term Eugenics.

    I asked you "Who won the Bet" - a simple question you could not answer - nor attempted to answer.

    It is mindless idiocy for me to continue .. so I respectfully bow out.
     
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    I keep using the term Eugenics because when I asked this:
    You answered with this:
    :roflol:

    I couldn't answer it because I haven't seen the damn film!
     
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    I explained the film to you .. told you what happens - What is frightening is that you were arguing against my claim by citing some "blockbuster" - like movie website credits having nothing to do with my claim or the content of the film in any detail...


    Sorry ... my brain is done .. you have hit my limit
     
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    Nope, I wasn't arguing against anything. You asked me to support my claim that "according to IMDB", the film is not about eugenics. And I did. This doesn't meant that I think you're wrong. I have no reason at all to doubt you on what you're saying the film is about.
     
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    My claim was that the Film is about Eugenics - in this case the Nature Nurture debate - which is "THE" classic Eugenics Debate.

    You say "The FILM is not About Eugenics" = an argument against my claim. As evidence you present the IMDB - which doesn't even mention Eugenics never mind support your claim that the film is not about Eugenics.


    Go away now .. my irritation level with his mindless banter is at its limit.
     
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    Nope. That's not a direct quote is it! All I said in reply to you saying that the film is about about eugenics is:
     
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    The OP does not want to outlaw atheism and does not
    want to outlaw anything If you will just read this page --
    just this page -- and read the OP you will see that the OP
    is only a philosophical Thought Experiment.

    Regarding your mention of the "First Amendment" , , , ,
    The People can legally render null and void the First Amendment.

    If there is no God, then Humans are The Final Authority on Everything.
    If there is no God, then Who or What is Higher than Collective Humanity?
    Answer: Nothing. If there is no God, then nothing is Higher than Collective Humanity.

    ■ "In God We Trust" is on America's money.
    ■ Our Human Rights come from God and are inalienable rights.
    ■ America's founding documents say our Human Rights come from
    God and NOT from other human beings.
    See The Declaration Of Independence quote below:

    From the Declaration Of Independence:

    "“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
    that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
    that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
    https://legaldictionary.net/inaliena...ghts.%E2%80%9D

    Also read this jewel , , ,

    "Personal rights held by an individual which are not bestowed by law,
    custom, or belief, and which cannot be taken or given away, or transferred
    to another person, are referred to as “inalienable rights.” The U.S. Constitution
    recognized that certain universal rights cannot be taken away by legislation,
    as they are beyond the control of a government, being naturally given to every
    individual at birth, and that these rights are retained throughout life."
    https://legaldictionary.net/inaliena...ghts.%E2%80%9D

    ■ However, if Humanity, and not God, is The Highest Authority, then Collective
    Humanity has the Power and the Authority to pass legislations that renders
    null and void the US Constitution and the Bill Of Rights and the Declaration of
    Independence.

    ■ The philosophical point of the Opening Post is that when you eliminate God
    as The Highest Authority -- then Collective Humanity becomes The Highest Authority
    and has The Power and The Authority to legislate absurdity into the law of the land.

    They can even outlaw chewing gum, or outlaw wearing clothes that have any blue
    in them, or outlaw the Bill Of Rights and outlaw the US Constitution and can render
    them both null and void. Who has The Power or The Authority to prevent
    Collective Humanity from doing exactly that?
    What are their names?
    Where are they located?
    Are you one of them?

    _________

    If you say it is a what, then:
    What exactly is it?
    Where is it located?
    Who has The Power or The Authority to interpret what the What says?
    What are their names?
    Where are they located?
    Are you one of them?

    JAG

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