Do We Have Free Will?

Have you? You have not compelled my mind to accept anything you have stated in this thread as true. Therefore, there is no argument coming from your side of the fence.

 

That's ok.
You have stated that you reject logic.
If you understood me I would begin to think I had gone insane.

 

Is arguing about how we argue an indication of how productive the Political Forum has become these days? Seems like a few thread have been up to this funny business.

 

It's Robini's interest and a perfectly valid philosophical question, which is the overarching topic of this area of the forum.
Start a thread you have an interest in.

 

It isn't the Original topic of this thread, so how was I to know it was a sanctioned detour, signed off and put into law by yourself.

 

I asked a couple question and receive no answer, but now I am to answer yours? I do not think so. It was you that earlier lectured me about deflecting right? So now I deflect until you answer my questions on post #349. I think the questions are important and will shed much light on your thinking which may help me to understand your position.

Specifically I would like you to answer these questions from post #349

If logic is so clear cut, then why the need for so many sub groups in which some contradict others?

How do you use rule one on your list to analyze the following quote: "I am an Epicurean. I consider the genuine (not the imputed) doctrines of Epicurus as containing everything rational in moral philosophy which Greek and Roman leave to us." -Thomas Jefferson

Apply your logic and tell me if the philosophical quote is a good or bad argumentation. Be specific please.

And if I have somehow glossed over any of your questions, let me know and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

 

That wasn't the complaint you made in your first post. That one was shown not to have merit so you moved your goalpost.
Didn't take long to show your stripes.

 

I actually did answer this but I formatted it poorly.
Is there some question regarding the terms Jefferson is using? A controversy? Is he using terms that any of us would disagree with his accurate use of? Rule one is passed.
Truly don't know what you are trying to point out.
You keep saying there are these disagreements in the Wiki article. When you point one out I will see if I can address it. Until then you are asking me to write an article and this hardly seems the venue for that. Find an example and let's discuss it.

 

Is that supposed to be some kind of rebuttal? You need more substance. Using learned lines out context of intended purpose is not 'logical'. How many times have you used those lines anyways?

 

To do such a thing would be unreasonable. No one would give up on logic because they don't have decent grammar. Since you seem to understand why someone would do this, what does that make you?

 

He is not asking if the statement itself contains a logical structure as what is more important is if the meaning inside is logical. It is important to consider that you cannot compare it's meaning with logic because it is not related. It was a statement of belief, not an argument to be made, and it was riddled with subjective opinions. To Jefferson it was "reasonable" but in reality it was belief. As logically as it was stated it would be misplaced for him to consider a belief as logical.

 

We were talking about the first rule of logic regarding agreement of terms.
Sorry you missed what we were discussing.

 

Now you have once again engaged in your usual tactic of avoidance and leaning on irrelevancies.

 

How should I engage with someone who has rejected logic as a basis for communication?

 

In the same manner if the question was based on solid foundation. You see, I don't need to lean on logic as a basis for communication.

 

Clearly understood.

 

Good. Thanks for the input.

 

When you dont have logic all you have is feelings.

When all you have to go on is feelings, you have self indulgence as
the highest mental achievement.

What a marvellous disadvertisement for "faith" as demonstrated by our hero!