they found some European style stone tools over 15,000 years old there. in some America tribes, all people have a big narrow nose and thin lips. some fools said Chinese went to America hundred years ago, it cant be true The so-called advanced ancient chinese ship. Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It was a punt ship. It was not advanced.
I am a fan of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean Clovis is an idea, not a genome. The idea of a fluted single point came from Europe. Asiatics used sharpened chips mounted in a handle. Salutrean critics should demonstrate how Asiatics evolved to a fluted single point. What happened to that Euro Genome? Gone with the Dryas Younger period that made a desert of Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas Thus Spake Moi
From what I understand, the Clovis point does resemble spear points from Europe in some ways, but is different in others. It's an interesting point, but hard to draw too much of a conclusion from. Without genetic evidence, or material evidence supporting the idea that the Soultreans were master seafarers, or evidence of other cultural similarities beyond just spear heads, it doesn't mean much. I do agree that there was probably contact between the new and old worlds going way back. The sweet potato seems to have made it to Polynesia via the Andes in South America, long before Europeans spread other new-world crops to the old world. As for the Chinese, that's more plausible than European cavemen. Their maritime capability was objectively superior to anything from stone age Europe. In fact, it's almost strange that they didn't establish ties with the Americas, given their location and capabilities. They could have been a colonial power, if they had really wanted to be.
The discovery of the Americas has for centuries been credited to the Italian explorer Christopher Columbus, but ancient markings carved into rocks around the US could require history to be rewritten. Researchers have discovered ancient scripts that suggest Chinese explorers may have discovered America long before Europeans arrived there. They have found pictograms etched into the rocks around the country that appear to belong of an ancient Chinese script. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3152556/Did-China-discover-AMERICA-Ancient-Chinese-script-carved-rocks-prove-Asians-lived-New-World-3-300-years-ago.html
The Americas are pretty big and it would seem logical to me that someone from the east would have stumbled on it before Columbus. But I also think Clovis point could have been developed by two different peoples because they worked pretty well.
First, you new photo is better than the older one. Second, since people find some old Chinese characters in America, that proved the first people came to America were not chinese. china was never an advanced country. 1) Writing china was the last of the "ancient" civilizations to develop writing. china invented writing about 3500 years ago, Oracle bone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Middle East invented writing 5000 years ago. European invented writing 7000 years ago, Vinča script. you can find some "chinese characters" in Vinča script. Example 十, 土， 干，口, 王，田. Vinča symbols - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Did chinese invented their own writing 3500 years later, or they copied? 2)Iron age china entered Iron age 600 years later than Europe and Near East, At the time, European used iron tools, chinese used primitive tools. Iron Age - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 3) Building When European and middle east people built stone/brick houses, chinese kings lived in a mud palace. The Great Pyramid of Giza was built 4500 years ago. Erlitou, The capital of china(2100 BC – 1600 BC) was built by mud. Erlitou culture - Wikipedia,
I think crossing the Pacific was not that difficult in ancient times and genetic evidence suggests that some Melanesians reached Latin America, where the traces of Denisovan DNA common among Melanesians were detected. Melanesians like Australian Aborigines (IQ 65) are much less intelligent than the Chinese (IQ 107), who could build large enough ships to travel abroad by the 10th Century. A Chinese Song Dynasty naval river ship with a Xuanfeng traction-trebuchet catapult on its top deck, taken from an illustration of the Wujing Zongyao (1044 AD).
who is the girl in your photo? she is beautiful. Just two points. 1) The average IQ of Chinese is 107, it must be a joke, chinese invented 0 machine. 2) you mentioned the advanced Chinese ships in Chinese Song Dynasty. -- First, at that time, 100 millions Chinese were enslaved by one million jurchens. Jurchen defeated china and took two chinese kings as slaves. Men of chinese royal family were sold into slavery in exchange for horses with a ratio of ten men for one horse. Jingkang Incident - Wikipedia China had to call Jurchen as uncle for over 100 years. The population rate was less than 1 million jurchens VS 100 millions Chinese. Then how advanced china could be at that time?? -- Second, Chinese ships was very backward. The most advanced ancient chinese ship - The Chinese treasure ship. Chinese treasure ship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It was a punt ship. It was not advanced.
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By as early as the 10th century AD, Vikings explored and settled in the northeastern fringes of North America, while they could not develop permanent colonies. Viking ships were structurally as primitive as their Chinese counterparts back then but they managed to cross the Atlantic with around 50 crew members on board for each voyage to America. The journey would have taken the Vikings, also called the Norse, from L'Anse aux Meadows on the northern tip of the same island to a densely populated part of Newfoundland and may have led to the first contact between Europeans and the indigenous people of the New World. "This area of Notre Dame Bay was as good a candidate as any for that first contact between the Old World and the New World, and that's kind of an exciting thing," said Kevin Smith, deputy director and chief curator of the Haffenreffer Museum of Anthropology at Brown University. Evidence of the voyage was discovered by a combination of archaeological excavation and chemical analysis of two jasper artifacts that the Norse used to light fires. The analysis, presented at the annual meeting of the Society for American Archaeology in Honolulu, suggests the jasper used in the artifacts came from the area of Notre Dame Bay. http://www.livescience.com/37189-new-viking-voyage-discovered.html
In all places ruled by mongols, chinese were the lowest class slaves. Even the chinese word pen___ was from mongolian. Manchu ruled china for 300 years, chinese women had to sleep with manchurian masters, sorry to mention this. In ww2, japanese raped 3 million chinese. And thousands chinese women were comfort women in jap army. USSR soliders left their DNA in china when they stayed in the northeast of china. You are a chinese man, you may have some Russian blood. Lol. Of course there are many chinese women "work" in usa. And in ww2, american soldiers in china did something that not very decent in china. American army had a few bases in china at that time. Chinese women were proud to have a love child with black american soldiers.
In ww2, 3 million chinese were raped. Sorry to mention this. Jap lost 2000 soldiers and took the chinese capital. USSR and USA saved china. All chinese women were proud to have a love child with USSR or USA soldiers. You did put your DNA into others. Lol
It's historically inaccurate to say that Russia was genetically transformed because of the Mongol invasions and Chinese haplogroups such as C and Q are very rare in Russia. Instead Haplogroup N1c, a descendant of East Asian macro-haplogroup NO, is found around 15-30% of the modern Russian population because native Siberian peoples in northern Siberia like the Nenets as well as the Uralic-speaking peoples in the Volga-Ural region, such as Komi and Mari, historically interbred with the Russians. Haplogroup N1c is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%), and to a lower extent also in central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%), Poland (4%) and Turkey (4%). N1c is also prominent among the Uralic speaking ethnicities of the Volga-Ural region, including the Udmurts (67%), Komi (51%), Mari (50%) and Mordvins (20%), but also among their Turkic neighbours like the Chuvashs (28%), Volga Tatars (21%) and Bashkirs (17%), as well as the Nogais (9%) of southern Russia. N1c represents the western extent of haplogroup N, which is found all over the Far East (China, Korea, Japan), Mongolia and Siberia, especially among Uralic speakers of northern Siberia. Haplogroup N1 reaches a maximum frequency of approximately 95% in the Nenets (40% N1c and 57% N1b) and Nganassans (all N1b), two Uralic tribes of central-northern Siberia, and 90% among the Yakuts (all N1c), a Turkic people who live mainly in the Sakha (Yakutia) Republic in central-eastern Siberia. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml
one question, who is the girl in you photo? many countries was invaded in history. Russia was indirectly ruled by mongols. Chinese and spainish were directly enslaved for much longer time.
For all practical purposes, Christopher Columbus discovered the Americas for the Western World. Yes, there were Stone aged Asians here already (the native Americans), and other groups had visited--the Vikings, and probably some Portugeuse fishermen.
There is evidence to suggest they did, they found DNA in natives bones (people that were dead well before the settlers arrived) and what they found was that DNA was unique to what is now France.... Paleontologists and archaeologists also excavated tools that were uniquely manufactured in a way that was exclusive to what is now today France - and these artifacts are 15,000-20,000 years old... Of course the scientific community ignores this evidence... More rational scientists that are open minded propose that perhaps these "Europeans" may have migrated on glaciers when there was ice that connected Europe with North America... Of course it is absolute fact the Vikings were the first ones to step foot on North America around 1000 AD... A little OT but, some think the Vikings made it as far south and inland as Minnesota...
There is evidence to suggest the Chinese did as well 10,000-30,000 years ago... Of course again mainstream science rejects this idea claiming people couldn't travel that far by sea 10,000 years ago, yet Easter Island exists which is basically in the middle of nowhere..
