Such a paranoid delusion is held by ideological fanatics who can name no suspects, nor offer in any legal venue credible, documented evidence for their fantasy, a stolen "Landslide!" The RINOs of Trumpery's litmus test for candidacy in 2022 is a willingness to lie about the 2020 election. Every candidate running for office in 2022 should be required to come clean concerning whether he respects the certified results of democratic elections, even after they have been investigated, audited, and repeatedly challenged in court, and no evidence to justify contesting the election by any legal means can be contrived. If he refuses to pledge to respect democratic elections, he should be required to admit whether he supports goon attacks on Congress if defeated. A Loser's recourse must never be allowed to take this repulsive recourse again:
Nut-balls who scream "rigged!" never have an explanation supported by facts to back their claim. I wonder why.
@Zorro.. they will never acknowledge the truth.. they are too heavily invested in the lie. Who knows the last time "we the people" actually elected the governance we wanted (well... besides Pres Trump.. who won the second time in an apparent landslide.)
Does it matter if they acknowledge it? Or should we just move forward toward a solution? The past is done. As soon as the State Legislatures certified 270 votes for Biden the election was over. The State Legislatures do not get mulligans. For them to first certify the results and then say that they are not sure and that the VP should give them a do over was ridiculous. First of all, the VP becomes acting president if a president cannot be selected by election day, which puts them in the position of being able to advance if they keep kicking it back to the states. Or put another way, would you want Kamala Harris to have this power in 2024!?! We got blindsided by the ‘cabal’ that openly bragged about foisting Joe Biden on us. Now we must survive his failed presidency and do better going forward.
Paranoid delusion is the alternative to respecting democracy and empirical data after all legitimate challenges have been exhausted, of course. Goon attacks on Congress by disgruntled losers are never a viable recourse, however.
Oh yeah.. I agree.. once the cheat is in and the stooge is seated, there is no going back. There are no downsides to cheating if you win the election, as the winner, now in power, can suppress all evidence or prosecution of illegal and wrong actions.
Except that Biden and Kamala are obviously blithering idiots, and walking billboards of just how important election integrity is. When the rogue Democrat executive branches were illegitimately changing election law by decree, in violation of the legitimate laws passed by the Representative Legislature, the Legislature needed to stand up, strap on a set of balls and shout HALT! They ARE our bulwark against fraud. They needed to shout from the mountaintops that if rogue executive officials illegitimately change election law, that they would not certify the results. That is, if the Rogue Executives illegitimately changed the law, that their illegitimate actions would disenfranchise the entire state. Constitutionally, the State Legislature makes election law. When they promulgate the law they have crafted, they need to make it clear that they WILL ONLY CERTIFY RESULTS of lawfully conducted elections. And then they need to follow through on refusal to certify as well as conduct impeachment hearings on rogue executive officials. So, a short term setback, in the long term I would not be surprised if this actually strengthens our Constitutional Liberal Democracy. Look at Joe Manchin and see the importance of moderates with a set of balls. This is true of both the GOP and the Dems. We need leaders to show character, conviction, virtue and fortitude.
I should have said "winners", plural, of the last election. Those two are at best, the fall guys for whoever is running the show. Balls?.. they don't need balls, they are in on it.. everyone in DC is there to make as much money as possible. If the new congress don't go along with iDC, they are outta there, lots of them get in to congress with good intentions.. but that doesn't get you elected in a corrupt system. Remember, it's who counts the votes, we had a lot of laws in place, some to redundancy, which were flat broken and in our faces with it that would have exposed more of the election fraud. WE will see, let's see what happens in the midterms, if they can blatantly steal a presidential election. they may never again let "the wrong people i.e. deplorables" win again. My hopes for the midterms is that it would be a logistic nightmare to try to steal soooo many election at once. I hope we get justice here, but I am fine with justice of the Lord. It is a sin to despair.
Trump hopefully won't be running to try to blatantly steal the election again, but we'll see if he or one of his cultists try.
Exactly. The evidence is mounting that he and his toadies tried to steal the 2020 election. It wasn't subtle, but they did try to hide the evidence
Well, that's an advantage of our constitutional system of having the State Legislatures run the elections in their states. The State Legislators aren't in DC. Yes. Positive ID of the voter prior to giving them a ballot, followed by an auditable trail through the counting process. Our election results should have the unquestioned integrity of a bank statement. I think we'll see an election with more states that have clearly transparent results of obvious integrity, but, we won't know for sure until after we hold it.
It's not up to me. The criteria for recounts is set in election law, the determination of when audits are needed are up to the State Legislature. How is it that you are seemingly so uninformed on these two bedrock procedures that are widespread in our Liberal Constitutional Democracy?
I know what an audit is. It's a recount of the vote that's supposed to prove the election is rigged and give Trump the win. Just like in Arizona....
I, for one, will leave here and go underground, because American Dream has become a nightmare. As I said, the cheaters who win make the rules from there on out.
It's wonderful that the Mar-a-Lago Lardass made Mexico pay for his big, beautiful wall. He told his January 6th goons: "You know, the wall is built. We're doing record numbers at the wall... We did a great job in the wall. Remember, the wall, they said it could never be done. One of the largest infrastructure projects we've ever had in this country, and it's had a tremendous impact!" [https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial]
I did not consider that accurately quoting him was necessarily mocking the Loser, but you may have a point.