Conservatives do it also with war.. Conservatives claim to believe in the sanctity of life yet have zero problems bombing civilians...
This is a particularly weak attempt to stir the pot. You sound like a right-winger talking about them there liberals. You throw up some commie strawmen when their acts have more to do with totalitariarnism and nothing to do with progressivism. The silliest statement was..."we all know how little regard many Progressives have for individual personal choice." My God, who has been on the cutting edge of gay rights, civil rights, women's rights, worker rights and on and on not conservatives. Also the ant-vaxx movement which is both stupid and dangerous has plenty of "progressives" in it.
You are worried about what might happen if liberals have control of your body when it comes to vaccinations. Are you against the conservative laws that control a person's right to end their own life? Are you against conservative laws that control what you can and can't clothe your own body with in public spaces? Wanting control is hardly just a liberal proposition. Your difficulty in grasping the concept of Public Health concerns vs. strictly private health concerns is your failing, not ours. Would you be in favor of letting an Ebola patient walk around your town because he wants to, or do you support the state's right to quarantine that person?
For the 10,000th time, Pro-Choice ONLY has to do with a woman's right to choose what to do with her own body, what individual Pro-Choicers think on other topics is irrelevant. And it does NOT apply to sex.
Women may end up being forced to abort IF abortion is banned because that means women will have lost the right to their own bodies which means ANYTHING can be done to them....the AIM of Anti-Choicers...
I laughed when you compared vaccine against contagious illnesses to abortion, I hope they find a vaccine that doesn’t make pregnancy catching LOL. And it’s ridiculous that you use Russia as an example with an ulterior motive. The reality is 75% of the worlds population is entitled to abortions and they didn’t it with all these ulterior motives you’re looking for.we had abortion here for almost fifty years and there’s no crisis.
I really don’t care what you think about a woman’s right to reproductive freedom. I think what you described above is basically right wingers not progressives. You’re the one with the double standards
Isn’t a woman’s well-being her business? It’s so interesting how you want to deny a woman and abortion because she cannot afford to support a child for 18 years and then you get angry that she “mooches “off society.Maybe we should vasectomize the father’s for 18 years
Note: " it's ONLY a woman's personal choice" See the denigration, marginalizing of, of women's rights. It's "ONLY" about women's rights...no big deal to Anti-Choicers…and they claim they are not misogynists??? Progressives have little regard for personal choice? Uh, duh, progressives are the ones FOR personal choice( to abort or not) and Regressives want to take that away from women......something you think is no big deal if it happens to women..
The OP was a FAILURE because it erroneously conflated two entirely different concepts so the thread actually does NOT have any point at all.
Only to the extent that it wouldn't end up causing vulnerable older people to end up coerced into it (which I believe it doubtless would, to some extent, if it were legal).
Yes, but it's inconsistent on some level. (intellectually, philosophical position) Oh? Why does a 13 year old girl have a right to abortion but not sex? You must be really gung ho about abortion.
Well we now know that the 'people' who are being coerced are children who are at far higher risk of serious complications and who are most likely to infect other children in public schools. Their parents often infringe on their rights to do with their bodies as they see fit as well. Child seat restraint and helmet laws are another way that government coerces the rights of minors. More steps towards communist Chinese type authoritarianism there. Your links ( the National Vaccine Information Center, come on!) do not reference the political labels you employ and provide no statistical evidence that progressives or liberal or pro lifers are more or less likely to support vaccination laws. If you ever get there you are proving correlation, not that one position is an inevitable result of an ideology. The best you do is infer a 'connection' based on geography. Maybe exposure to the feces of the California Condor is the cause. I will be blunt. This is without a doubt the worst thread I have seen you post on abortion. There is absolutely nothing intellectually credible in this OP that warrants discussion. There are no facts to support the foundation of any premise. The premise you arrive at is faulty. The conclusion is utterly absurd and has no connection to the premise. Desperation and/or boredom is all that is on view here.
NO, it isn't. Pro-choice is consistently about women's right to their own bodies. They are two different things. If you can't see that ( or don't want to see that ) I can't help you No, I'm gung ho about everyone having the right to their own bodies.
I never said that...you're, true to form, making things up...did you see that on a TV show or Sci-fi movie?
That doesn't address my claim of double standards. Your argument here basically boils down to "I'm right because I said so". No substance at all. Don't know if you realized that. Now, you believe vaccinations are also a personal medical decision, don't you?
