Does it work?

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Which the actions have worked

  1. Flooding the nation with immigrants

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  2. Limiting immigration

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  3. Threatening other nations

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  4. Diplomacy with other nations

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  5. Moving all manufacturing to China

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  6. Buying only as much from China as they buy from us

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  7. Picking the most powerful countries in the world to fight

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  8. Treating all countries with respect

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  9. Making Enemies

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  10. Making Friends

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  11. Having far more weapons than anyone else and using them

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  12. Having lots of weapons but only ever using them for actual defense

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  13. Other response (please post below)

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does it work?
    Flooding the nation with immigrants?
    Having far more weapons than anyone else?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of debate on political forum is ideological and can't reach
    a useful conclusion, it will end exactly where it started.

    I often refer back to the Vietnam War because all the large wars
    we've been in since have had similarities, and some differences.

    A big concern about American public thinking in Vietnam was
    we were being ideological, with no concern about whether
    we were winning or losing, just that we were right.

    It turned out in the end, after we'd killed 3 million Vietnamese,
    that maybe we may have been ideologically wrong, as well as
    practically wrong.
     
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    The same split between ideology and reality exists in the war in
    Ukraine. The Russian Federation has only 7% of the GDP of
    the US, and a NATO trained and equipped army almost as big
    as Russia's (it depends on whether you count active servicemen
    or also reservists Etc.).

    We've also claimed Russia is demoralized, disorganized
    and is the aggressor and has all the disadvantages those
    bring with them.

    And we have about 40 countries on our side.


    What if our ideology is wrong again?
     
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    Does flooding the nation with immigrants work?
    Is it ideologically the right thing to do?
     
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    I did a typo:
     
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    As for the last two options - if our weapons makers are right and
    the US is surrounded by powerful vicious enemies, then we
    shouldn't be wasting the weapons we do have in Ukraine, and

    showing them off to our enemies. And letting them be sold on
    the black market to anyone who wants to pay pennies in the
    dollar for them.
     
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    The point about this thread is I'm advocating Realism as opposed to
    one of the forms of Idealism.

    To me the various different idealisms don't seem to have much relevance
    or testability, and are therefore just different types of building castles in the air
    the air.
     
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    'Freedom' is an invisible sort of thing, Emperor's New Clothes
    thing that makes money for weapons makers and death and
    destruction for the common people.
     

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