Does this sound like a misogynist to you?

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  1. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    I was just on another political forum and there was a poster on there who believes it's OK to rape your wife. He also doesn't believe women should have the right to vote.

    I told him rape is never OK regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not.

    And it turned out there was a moderator on that forum who also believes it's OK to rape your wife.

    I told him rape is wrong it's always wrong, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not and I was banned-lol

    I was banned for defending the rights of both women and men.

    I can proudly say I've been banned from both men's rights sites and feminist sites.

    I'm not a misogynist. I'm an egalitarian. Egalitarians believe inequalities are wrong when those inequalities are the result of discrimination regardless of race and gender.

    Egalitarianism is the true equality movement.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    What type of website was that, some Islamist forum?
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect his messages leading to a ban were more that just his saying he opposes spousal rape.
     
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    Sometimes banishment is a blessing.
     
  5. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I looked at your profile. I'm prochoice as a comment, where you say you are prolife.

    I oppose Plan B being in vending machines and believe it should only be issued from behind the counter (no script required) with an ID required and to be recorded and only sold to females who also sign a statement it is specifically and only for her. There is too great a risk of it being covertly given to females without her knowledge. I could see men who would always slip a woman/women a PlanB every time he has sex. In addition to preventing a pregnancy she wants, Plan B is considered ONLY suitable for RARE emergency usage. It is a hormone and excess Plan B hormones cause life threatening side effects such as heart attack and stroke along with other side effects.

    However, there should not be an age limit nor parental consent required.
     
  6. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As for the issue of spousal rape, there are complexities, such as the case brought against an elderly man for having sex with his wife who had alzheimers and it argued she did not have a capacity to give consent. He was found not guilty, but he also was a legislator and prosecution used to publicly and politically destroy him.

    I saw a divorce case of a couple who had been married over a decade, and she claimed he raped her because they both had gotten drunk and had sex, and she alleged she was too drunk to give consent.

    So in a sense your statement is a loaded statement because you assert a universal definition you have that everyone else must have of "spousal rape."
     
  7. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    http://www.debatepolitics.com/

    Check out my thread in sex and sexuality, "rape is wrong. it's always wrong" that was closed by a moderator as proof I'm not bull(*)(*)(*)(*)ting. This actually happened, I'm not joking

    Even though there's a rape thread on the same page
     
  8. ryobi

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    No check out the thread, "rape is wrong, it's always wrong," that was closed on http://www.debatepolitics.com/
     
  9. ryobi

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    Here's the thread...


    Rape is wrong. It's always wrong, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not.



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  10. ryobi

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    The rape is wrong. It's always wrong thread that was closed by a moderator.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/239498-rape-wrong-its-always-wrong.html

    I also asked the wife rapist whether he ever molested a child and the moderator who was defending the wife rapist flagged me for asking that question.

    I'm worried there's something really unseemly going at that site.

    That moderator really didn't want me to ask the wife rapist that question.

    I hope they don't have access to children.

    Why do they have a problem with a thread against rape????
     
  11. ryobi

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    My mom was a forensic therapist who worked with sex offenders and she thought it was very suspicious that the moderation on that site would defend a self described wife rapist and also be so threatened by asking the wife rapist if he had ever molested a child.

    There's something going on with this site.

    Why would a site be so threatened by an anti-rape thread. Something unseemly is going on there.

    I hope they're not abusing children.
     
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    The moderators here would probably act the same way. However distasteful their comments might be, most forums have simple rules prohibiting personal attacks against other posters. That isn’t a defence of those comments on the part of the moderators. The other thread you started was clearly an attempt to continue the argument rather than start a new discussion and so was closed on that basis.

    It’s sometimes frustrating but probably a good thing that we can’t respond to the idiots on these forums in kind. It would just rapidly descend in to a mire.
     
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    Rape is wrong regardless of the circumstances.
     
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    Some forums have strict policies on not allowing any discussion/reference about child molestation. Your reference giving the impression you were accusing someone of it did not help. I was temporarily banned on a cite for just using it as an analogy when debating another posters government policy.
     
  15. ryobi

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    Does this sound like a misogynist???

    I was on a political forum and there was a poster there who believes it's OK to rape your wife. He also doesn't believe women should have the right to vote.

    I told him rape is never OK regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not.

    And it turned out there was a moderator on that forum who disagreed.

    I created a thread titled rapes is wrong. It's always wrong, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're married or not and the thread was locked and I was banned for defending the rights of both men but especially women.

    Is that what a misogynist does. Does a misogynist speak out against wrongs against women even when those wrongs are being commited by an authority figure and doing it anyway despite the consequences.

    Does a misogynist sacrifice themselves to make the world a better place for women????

    There I've showed you my evidence that I'm not a mysoginist. Now show me your evidence supporting your claims that I am a misogynist.

    I'm not a misogynist. I'm an egalitarian. Egalitarians believe inequalities are wrong when those inequalities are the result of discrimination regardless of race and gender.

    Egalitarianism is the true, just, moral equality movement.
     
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    You just have to accept fact; You are a misogynist. :D
     
  17. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You only linked to that forum, not the relevant thread.

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    But the slogan is circular logic: "Evil is always evil," claiming this proves whatever I oppose is evil.

    The issue is what constitutes "spousal rape," not whether it is acceptable.
     
  18. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe someone decided you were a sock puppet or something like that? Did you ask why you were banned?
     
  19. ryobi

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    I was banned because a feminist moderator was threatened by egalitarianism.
     
  20. ryobi

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    This is what the feminist moderator wrote:


    Moderator Gina Wrote, """""Oh, goodie! A piece of **** thread by a piece of **** poster, now in my house so I can call a woman-hating misogynist out for being the low-life (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that he is

    She was so threatened that I an egalitarian was defending the rights of women and therefore not fitting her feminist mysoginist narrative that she deleted the anti-rape thread defending the rights of woman and I was banned.

    Feminist biased moderation exists on the vast majority of sites on the internet. I've been banned from feminist sites for merely posting a scientific study with no analysis, just the study-nothing else

    That's anti-intellectualism. That's one of the reasons I debate feminists.
     
  21. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That was not a valid reason to close the thread or to ban you in my opinion.
     
  22. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Calling someone who disagrees with you a "wife rapist" would seem to be a very serious personal attack.
     
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    That site is run by some real nuts. I tried to join, and was told I had been permanently banned for having multiple accounts. (Up to that point, I had NO account and have no idea what the heck is going on.)

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    If he considers raping his wife acceptable, I would call it an accurate description!
     
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    Considering the way the OP author posts here I would be inclined to think there is a whole lot more to it than is being disclosed ... are you not the one who has accused various people of things such as paedophilia simply for blowing your opinion apart? In the end we have only the statement of the author as evidence to the actual exchange and based on past experience I personally would be wary of taking it on face value
     
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    LOL, that's one the WORST forums on the internet.
     

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