Does Trump know that he lost the election?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by CenterField, Nov 11, 2020.

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Does Trump know that he lost the election?

  1. Yes. He won't concede, to raise money, undermine Biden, prepare a 2024 comeback, or something else

  2. No. He is quasi-delusional at this point and does genuinely believe that he won

  3. It could be a bit of both - has his own agenda with this, but at times kind of believes that he won

  4. I don't know. It is hard to know what he is thinking right now.

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would SO love to see Trump in a jumpsuit that matches his face.

    I wonder if Club Fed will allow him to have his make-up?
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    I can’t assess this issue in any way as I have very poor understanding of military’s inner workings.
    But I won’t accept WP assessment of it due to the fact that they are extremely partisan and their opinion is pretty much the opinion of the Democratic Party.
     
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    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Since my first post, #71 (just a few above this one), was directed in specific response to another poster, I did not address the thread's poll, in which I chose #1. This is because I have come, after a degree of initial dubiousness, to believe that Donny Deutsch-- a branding & marketing expert, fmr. chairman of an advertising firm, and personal acquaintance of Donald Trump's-- was correct, in his appraisal, which came shortly after election day, that this is all part of Trump's preparation for his next popular incarnation.

    Mr. Deutsch speculated about a Trump subscription-channel, before there was any word of one, that I'd heard. And the more I consider it, the more sense it makes. It would not only be an easy source of income, but of continuing influence & importance. Being talked about, & having celebrity-status in the public eye, has been important to the Donald since his early days in real estate, as a young man. He also clearly enjoys adulation, which comes in bulk at his rallies, which he will, I'm sure, continue to stage, promoting them through his pay-channel. The rallies, in turn, will be strong marketing tools for his tv "network:" a lucrative circle of self-gratification & relevance.

    In this view, his current actions are intended to aid his branding. It would, naturally, be poisonous to his prospects to walk out looking, in his own or his supporters' view, like a loser. He, instead, wants to leave defiantly, shaking up Washington's status quo (by bringing home the troops, which conventional politicians couldn't deliver). It's what's good for business.

    I don't see anyone as one-dimensional, so other motives, no doubt, are commingling with his financial plan. Aspects of his post-electoral activities will, certainly, also be attributable to other causes, both self-realized & subconsciously-driven, such as satisfying his ego (including the spiteful f'ing of others), but also
    in service of his philosophical beliefs. Since no one can predict, esp. w/ Trump, what lies ahead, I can't say which of his beliefs might come into play; but for any who rolled their eyes at the word, "philosophical," I'll just point out that his beliefs about Muslims, blacks in relation to whites, or "s- hole countries" could all potentially be part of his world-view, which is part & parcel of anyone's philosophy. No one remains a blank slate through life.

    Also, one must be aware of the possibility that weakening America's strategic positioning is something that one, able to deliver such usually unattainable goods, might use for financial benefit, from those who would tactically benefit. But this is simply speculation.
     
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    Now THAT
    is a weak argument. The Washington Post, while having a sterling reputation for integrity is, nevertheless, NOT the only source for this information. And it takes no military mind to see the gulf in competence between the outgoing & incoming leadership. Again, if you bothered to check into this, you could find non-partisan, high-ranked, career military personnel raising alarms about this. Or, you could just give Trump the benefit of your self-imposed ignorance. But then you can't go on making your case as if you aren't a partisan, but only looking with clear, unbiased eyes, at the full spectrum of evidence, unlike those who you debate against & write off their remarks as the product of being in a, "bubble."
     

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