DOJ sues Roger Stone, alleging he owes nearly $2 million in unpaid income taxes

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  1. ronv

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    A scam artist and tax evader, just like Trump. Two birds of a feather...
     
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    Why is the DOJ 'suing' Roger Stone and not just flat out charging him with tax invasion?
     
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    He owes personal income taxes, but is hiding his income in an LLC where the IRS can't get to it.
    Pretty smart maybe.
     
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    If you charge him and he's found guilty you might be paying the cost of his room and board. If you sue him you might get 2B plus some punitive damages on top of that.
     
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    I don't think it's just that. I mean why not both? Maybe they will if they win the civil suit.

    I think it would be difficult to prove an intent to hide money when it the tax company you hired who mishandled your taxes, not you. You would have to obtain significant communications records to prove the conspiracy and even then, why would the tax company take such a risk?
     
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    You're right, both would be appropriate.
     
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    Probably lots of rich businessmen in the New York area engage in this type of tax evasion, extremely common, almost the norm rather than the exception. But anyone with even remote ties to Trump has come under extreme scrutiny.

    My opinion on this is that this is fair, in a way, and not fair, in another.

    A lot of wealthy businessmen in that area are kind of slimy, that's just the way it is. We can ask if political targeting is fair though, to keep investigating your enemies, and spend lots of time and resources to that end until you find something.
     
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    lol, they can't even get the back taxes from Al Sharpton from the 1980's....
     
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    ... or Charlie Rangle. Apparently, they only come after you if you are in the political class if you have an (R) associated with you.
     
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    Other than wishing I was wealthy enough to have a $2 million dollar tax problem, I have no interest in Stone's tax issues. What I do have an interest in is how the government decides who gets charged with tax evasion and who doesn't, who gets charged with lying to congress and the FBI and who doesn't, who gets charged with hate crimes and who doesn't, and so on. A lot of it seems political to me. A lot of it.
     
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    If some punitive financial judgement can be won - like taking all his money and prohibiting him from making more - then criminal charges would look vindictive. I doubt the government could find half his money much less take it, so maybe just ship him out to be with his money. Or criminal charges.
     
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    Probably because tax invasion is not a thing? Sarcasm aside, that actually is a good question, but I'll agree with @Capt Nice in post #5 until further info comes out.

    Best news I've heard today...

    This dickhead still thinks he 'won' the first time

    SNIP
    I will fight these politically motivated charges and I will prevail again," Stone said in a statement.
    ENDSNIP

    Huh, you were convicted, dude.... days away from prison when another grifter saved your bacon....
     
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    I find it highly suspicious when the government charges people with hiding and obstructing a criminal investigation but is never charged or convicted of the crime they were supposedly obstructing an investigation into.

    The purpose of obstruction laws is to help prosecute criminals who committed a crime, not to make criminals out of innocent people.
     
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    Has anyone here seen the documentary Get Me Roger Stone? ... fascinating look at a conniving Washington insider ... unfortunately, he's not as bright as the other sides conniver, James Carville ...

    Washington is such a cesspool of con artists ... my library is full of books written by and about these types of provocateurs ... fascinating and extremely intelligent men but cockiness has been the downfall of many ... and by many, I mean the clownshoes that Trump surrounded himself with ... not even Nixon could find such an incompetent bunch ...
     
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    Stone's only employment in his entire life was as either a lobbyist or as a part of someone's political campaign.
     
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    That does not make sense. The IRS has all the tools and staff needed to collect taxes and enforce collections.

    Here is the DOJ site. Show where they sued Stone for taxes.

    https://www.justice.gov/videos
     
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    Lol, got me on the typo. I fully admit to that one. But you're right, we need to see the case develop to learn more. It just seems strange that an office of justice that normally prosecutes went the civil court route instead.
     
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