Domestic Terrorism

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not missing them at all. You are double-speaking again, or simply don't have a practical view here.

    If everyone took care of ONE person, who would be left uncared for? Nobody.
    WHO understands what you want and need better than you do? Nobody.

    Caring for is what a parent does in raising a child- assuming the parent actually understands that the real objective is teach the child to provide for and care for themselves, so they can be independent and not become a burden on the rest of society. People who do care for themselves first, are often so productive that they do have a lot to give- and they do give. They may not be sending you a cash payment so you can avoid taking responsibility for yourself, but that is doing you a favor- not depriving you. IF you learn to do for yourself, then and only then can you acquire genuine self-respect, and nothing you could ever own would be more valuable, more powerful. You must prove yourself to yourself, and I will not enable their avoidance of that; will not cheat them out of the opportunity to own themselves and the ability to control their own lives. I know what that strength and power is worth.

    You sound like you think society should replace your parents- change you, feed you, do whatever you are not willing to do for yourself.
    It's possible to show someone how to succeed, how to become strong and how to succeed. I know, because I've taught those skills- full time for three years, and whenever I could ever since, nearly 40 years.
    But you CANNOT do it for them, you CANNOTgift those things to people. You can't pass a law granting them. The things that lift you out of dependence and poverty MUST come from the inside. Once they do- you can give that person a hand-up. Until they come to that point, everything you give them is a hand-out, and it enables them to avoid the challenge of becoming strong and whole.

    I don't want people to exist- I want them to thrive.
     
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  2. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Oh I agree that the rioting was organized. That's different from Antifa itself being that organized. Nor does that sound like terrorism to me. It's illegal enough without that.
     
  3. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't care what you call something. If it is a crime it is a crime and I want it prosecuted and not be bailed out because some idiotic city has a no-bail policy allowing multiple arrests of the same individuals like what happened in NYC.
     
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  4. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    So you don't care if the government deems anti-fascism to be terrorism?
     
  5. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe I already made myself clear.
    I prefer the government federal or state prosecute crime as crime.
     
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  6. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You haven't been clear. You've danced. Surely you feel repugnance when a government attempts to call anti-fascism terrorism?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have been very clear. You just don't like what you hear. Your attempts to box me in have failed. Time for you to move on.
     
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    Yep, you've clearly couldn't answer "Surely you feel repugnance when a government attempts to call anti-fascism terrorism?". We're in agreement!
     

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