Donald Trump’s chances of winning are approaching zero

Of course every anti-Trump voter needs to follow through with their intent on election day in order to make sure the nation is safe from this fascist's takeover attempt, but it's interesting that the message a couple weeks out is loud and clear. Trump, his message of hate, and this end-of-days approach by the Republican party is being soundly rejected by the American people.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...umps-chances-of-winning-are-approaching-zero/

We're in a strange era, though, where facts are dismissed as "partisan" and conspiracy theories form the basis for people's opinions. Most Americans accept the projections cited in this article and see what a disaster Trump is. But his supporters have been rejecting facts for months now. Even the party loyalists who aren't necessarily Trump supporters but go along with whatever the Party tells them to do, even they have started to buy into the false narratives being fabricated by Trump and his henchmen. Remember the one, "Hillary started the birther movement?" There is a poll out that shows nearly a third of Floridians believe that garbage.

How do you think Americans will receive the final election results? Will Mike Pence's calm acceptance have any influence, or will these crazy people go on complaining that everything was rigged? Will they protest? Will they become self-proclaimed enemies of the state? Seems like some dark stuff, but we've never had a politician project such darkness before Trump.

 

Trump isn't a fascist. He's an idiot. He likely has done as much research into the Third Position as he's done into the US political system. None at all. But the reasons for Trump's existence still remains: The GOP is a party without a corpse(ideologically speaking). You cannot claim 'conservatism' when there's nothing worth conserving. Interestingly enough, that's also an indictment on Liberalism.

If there's nothing worth conserving, that means there isn't any progress either. Of course, the definition of the average American for progress and for "social rights" are two very different and starkly contrasting definitions of progress. Something the Dems also experienced and likely will not be able to bring in those voters.

For the Trump brigade largely came from Blue Dogs(like myself) who were disaffected.

 

"Approaching"?

That ship sailed a long time ago.

Trump has had ZERO chance for, at least, a couple of months (at this point).

 

The Washington Post newspaper is not even good for wrapping fish.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct24

Rasmussen Reports.. Trump +2 in the general election.

Hillary supporters better cheat even better. Get that voter fraud thing going full swing. Felons, dead people, fake people, Hillary really needs the illegal vote now.

 

Just be aware the accusations of "rigging" has been Trump's favorite excuse for over 30 years.

 

lol Rasmussen also had Romney up

 

I rather liked this. More truth than not.

Trump has no ideology beyond his own ideas. He has no core values, beyond what 'works' and he has no public passions larger than his own interest. I m truly shocked so few in the GOP voter registration club saw this earlier. They really were completely duped. I don't know what happened to their sense of intuition, their instincts. This pile of dog turds was Saint Bernard sized and it took up the whole sidewalk, but they did not see it and avoid it. I don't get it. Its going to take some former Trumpers to explain. With Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Dole, Bush, McCain and Romney I could always see something of value in a political candidate. There was not one single political or personal virtue to redeem him.

 

The Washington Compost? LMFAO!

 

O'Keefe, the guy you love to hate, exposed the rigging. And before you slander O'Keefe, just remember two of the people who admitting to cheating are no longer working for the democrats.....or so they say.

 

I mean, think about one controversial topic: The whole transgenders using female bathrooms thing. Even though I personally oppose it for moral purposes(and security ones), let's say I relent on it. What big benefit would it be, ultimately to transgenders? to Americans? Nothing.

We need to redefine what a 'right' is, specifically what a civil right is. Is it the 'right' to do anything? Or more accurately: Is it the right to same social benefits as everyone in the Union? If our position matches the President's, we might as well abolish both boy/girl bathrooms altogether for example.

To me, we've confused rights with privileges on some issues. Not that privileges should be denied, but they shouldn't be codified as law. Letting someone do something isn't the same thing as a naturally ordained right.

Basically, self-claimed "rights" become dangerous when they're asserted as such. And that's a big part of the divide in National America right now IMO.

 

So you are saying Trump is Doomed correct?

 

Well, as someone who was teetering(because you see, I'm a Nationalist. Though I made my own philosophy: Fascist-Technocracy). I can begin to explain. The political robber baron class(on both sides) has begun(and in fact infested) our political process and has robbed us of our due wages, our due wealth to the middle class which even as a Hillary states, was the lynchpin to America.

Hillary's problem BTW, is that she's a part of that same robber baron class, wearing(as much as she can anyway) our clothes on November to get elected. But no one believes that crap anymore, which is why the 'rise' of Donald Trump. The Rise of Trump actually precedes Trump in a sense. Remember the 2014 budget? The one Paul Ryan negotiated? It was seen as a big giveaway to corporate interests. Such, that you saw the Far-Right AND the Far-Left object to the bill.

If you had the 'Far-Right' and 'Far-Left' aligned on a candidate, dare I say we could push a populist into the WH. But yes, this has built up for a long while now. On the Left, you saw the Bern. And I admit to myself: The state of the country is such, that I'd throw it to the Far-Left(or 'Democratic-Socialist' as he called himself) candidate and see: If it fails, they have nothing more to say. If it works, I'm a happy citizen enjoying the fruits of the country's new found labor.

And on the Right, you had Donald Trump who highlighted(if in his obtuse way), immigration, highlighted by proxy the cost of immigrants to the country. The so-called "country of immigrants" was no longer a country for its natives. But contrary to some, by 'natives' I don't mean just Whites. Ultimately, ALL citizens of all ethnicities will be pushed out by the 'demographic' change to come. You're going to have the various sects in this country fight over the squabbles in this country.

I thought these developments would happen much later, but after Donald Trump who knows. But right now, we're becoming what we fight over in the Middle East: Iraq, Syria. You're going to see sectarian lines drawn. And while the sectarian conflict rips America a new, the Baron Class will be victorious and virtually untouchable.

See: Venezuela. America's at the brink of something dangerous for its existence. And if Hillary wins and is unable(or unwilling) to push reforms through, 2020 will make this election look like a pancake.

 

What you say may be true...But can you at least explain why (you think) there's absolutely no energy/enthusiasm on Hillary's side but yet the excitement on Trump's side is hard to even contain. Just curious...how do you scoff that off??

 

We will see when we count the votes:

Why I Now Feel Compelled To Vote For Trump "Last time a Clinton was on the ballot, I voted for Ross Perot. My vote didn’t deny Bob Dole the White House, but I confess I felt a smug sense of satisfaction in “refusing to settle.” I sure showed them, didn’t I?"

http://townhall.com/columnists/dere...now-feel-compelled-to-vote-for-trump-n2235899

 

The whole idea of Trump is a middle finger to everybody else. There was no political thought or principles in the campaign--just that middle finger to the rest of the country (and world).

 

The left promoted the same crapola in 2008 about Hillary.

 

Most people I talk to are basically in a "oh (*)(*)(*)(*), what the heck happened this election." I know almost nobody that is enthusiastic about our choice between HIV and Ebola.

 

Good point. I guess these questions will be answered in two weeks.

 

I get the 'anti-establishment' thing. I get the rage, the fear, the frustration and the sense that time is running out. I do not get why you folks could not find someone better than Trump to let voice to your cause. He was so god-awful and self destructive from day one. Wouldn't a second or third place option for a candidate be better than a man who was not vetted, was an embarrassment and completely without the skills to get thisjob. He offended more people every single day even during the primary than he could possibly bring.

Think of a few other names that might have fit the bill . ANYONE OF THEM was politically more viable than this guy. Pat Buchanan looks like a political genius and statesman now.

 

Ever since the results of the GOP New Hampshire Primary when it became clear Trump was going to be the Republican nominee, Resigned myself to a Hillary Clinton presidency. If one studied the numbers, it was clear then Trump wasn't going to win. For someone like me, that was a shame as several other GOP candidates would have beaten Clinton. It was all in the numbers which partisans and avid supporters of their candidate always fail to see or if they do, ignore. The numbers were never the horse race, but were the favorable and unfavorable ratings. Folks tend not to vote for someone they dislike, that is an historical fact. That is unless they dislike both candidates and then they hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils, the least worst candidate, the one they dislike the least.

This was clear way back in February and for those who read my postings, I said so then and say so today. Trump was a loser. I always thought it would be impossible to nominate someone more disliked by the electorate as a whole than Hillary Clinton, the Republicans did just that.

This to me has always been a pick you own poison election. It was and still is clear the voters will choose the glass with a bit less poison, a bit less evil, a bit less disliked, the least worst candidate. But that still puts someone in the oval office that is poisonous to this country, that is contains evil and is still disliked by the majority of Americans, that is a bad choice, but just a bit less bad.

There is nothing here to cheer about, perhaps we can survive less evil, than again, maybe not. But they were the choices given. I choose neither.

 

Hillary's campaign did start the whole birther thing. You just keep thinking Trump's chances are nearing zero. Keep listening to the media.

 

See: Wikileaks, Russia.

Hasn't slowed her down. She even got the media to buy into it.

 

The primaries were rigged, she'll rig the election if she can.

 

I kept waiting for republicans to see the light. The problem was exactly as Perry described it. The other candidates were to selfish to coalesce earlier enough around the anti-trump candidate. As a Dem, I was most frightened by Rubio as the nominee. I saw Clinton as burnt toast with any fairly new republican face with decent speaking ability and presence who could manage not to seem utterly bigoted or reactionary. The last two standing were Cruz and Trump. I could not believe the luck.

 

Lol, yeah, but they "have all the big words" so that should be easy enough.