Donald Trump is a 'Pragmatist'

And there are those of us who don't like him because of his words and actions, and his grifting "accomplishments" like defrauding customers and investors.

 

That's a very creative way of ignoring everything I said and trying to change the subject. The claim was that Trump is a pragmatist. He is not. If you want to praise him for something else, go for it and we can talk about it. But a pragmatist he is not. He, by his own admission, prefers to focus on his image and project fantasy more than he likes to focus on the details, which is the opposite of pragmatism.

 

Resulting in real accomplishments, not just empty promises.

 

Resulting in both real accomplishments and empty promises.

 

And yet he still managed to beat the Democrats at their own game and they are still butthurt because of it.

 

As true as it is irrelevant to anything I said.

 

Just to give a little prespective, and longtimers from NYC can attest to this also, we here in Buffalo had a mayor who some would question his sanity because of how he never played to the media nor did he care who's enemies lists he made. He cared deeply about the city and served out four terms from 1978-1994. None other than James Donald Griffin (NYC people I refer to Ed Koch).

 

Trump has never been convicted of fraud of any kind. Sorta makes your complaints ungrounded, eh?

As far as the Trump University brouhaha, it was nothing but a 'how to get rich in real estate' course which 'graduates' sued because they didnt get rich. Duh.

 

Oh no very relevant. Democrats are always the power hungry mob and will do anything and everything legal or no, to attain rule over the masses. This is why their downward spiral into lunacy began not in 2016, nor 2000, but in 1994 when they lost their stranglehold on the House of Representatives for the first time in 50 years at that time.

 

And therein lies the witchhunt by Mueller and the establishment political class.

 

Then take it up with a Democrat. It is still irrelevant to anything I said and instead tries to shift the focus away from the facts presented.

 

Nope. He defrauded investors and customers. Whether or not he was convicted does not change those facts.

Yes, it was nothing but a get-rich-quick scam that Trump lied and said he designed the curriculum for and hand-picked the "professors" for. Not sure where you think the disagreement is there. I agree that it was a get-rich-quick scam that the "graduates" rightly sued for its blatant misrepresentations (psst, also known as defrauding customers).

 

Nonsense. Thats like a Harvard grad who ends up flat broke suing the school because he failed. Nothingburger, but nice attempt @ threadjacking.

 

Have you actually managed to convince yourself of that? Because your claim here is completely divorced from reality. Harvard and Trump University are two completely different animals. Trump University is, by your own admission, a get-rich-quick scam. Harvard is not. By its own admission, in its marketing and sales materials, it isn't about a product -- it is about a feeling. Harvard actually cares about its product, not just feels. Trump University is not an actual university. Harvard is. Trump University got sued for blatant misrepresentation, which it was guilty of. What has Harvard misrepresented about its product? Did it lie about its curriculum like Trump University did? Did it lie about its educators like Trump University did? Did it train its "professors" to focus on bilking people for more and more money without providing anything of value in return for the increased costs like Trump University did? Harvard does not market itself as having some sort of trade secrets and it does not promote itself as being necessary for financial success. TU did.

In other words . . .



Sorry, but not even a nice attempt at evasion @failuretoconsiderreality @didyouforgetaboutthepartwhereyoualreadyadmitteditwasagetrichquickscam.

 

You know, the whole world isn't the American Left and Right. And the whole world hates or despises him. It isn't an American Left issue; the entire world sees what a complete disaster he is.

 

He hasn't accomplished anything except ruin our country and our relationship with our allies.

 

The whole world isn't a popularity contest either- yet nearly everybody is looking for something for nothing, and the fools willing to provide it. When a new leader doesn't go along with that as his predecessors have, they feel cheated out of what they have rightfully stolen in the past. Many of them are going to be mad; the disaster is that the free ride is coming to an end. Little spoiled brats who don't get their way hate their parents too.

The world has a great deal of conflict today not because of Trump, because it was already happening- but because of the idiotic, crackpot ideology of the left that is promoting ludicrous ideas that can't possibly lead anywhere but down. The reason the world is usually in turmoil is not the real leaders, but due to the whiners, the losers demanding equality they haven't earned, the people thinking that the world should adjust to them because they are entitled- and they aren't happy. Total loss of perspective, absence of maturity, absence of morality and total denial of responsibility.

 

Sorry, but Trump fits that exact same mold to a T. Whiner, entitled, absent maturity, absent morality, absent responsibility. All true observations, but all just as true (if not more so) for Trump.

"I am the most fabulous whiner. I do whine because I want to win. And I'm not happy if I'm not winning. And I am a whiner. And I'm a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win." - Donald J. Trump, 2015

 

Im not the one trying to derail the thread. Must hurt your ilk deep down to see Trump succeed where Obama failed. Obviously... since you want to talk about ancient history instead of giving the man his due.

 

Why do you think we don't hear much about the Democratic Party's favorite JV team, ISIS, anymore?

 

If Trump whines to win, and it obviously works- why are you whiners not winners?
The left is a basket of lost children who are lucky they found their way out of the birth canal.... and unlucky to be born to parents who lacked the maturity and will to teach them discipline and self-respect. Having no idea what maturity, morality and responsibility are, the are in no position to judge anyone.

 

It is far from ancient history, and I'm not an Obama supporter. Giving the man his due is impossible unless we also call out his failures, including moral failures.

 

Trump supporters are in no position to claim that they have a problem with leaders failing to act morally and maturely when they clearly don't care when the object of their hero worship is judged by the same standards. Shifting standards to protect the object of your affection is faith, not reason.

 

The fact that there is a lot of conflict in the world is a reason to have a man in the office who is intelligent, thoughtful, emotionally and mentally healthy, knowledgeable, and who has excessive self control with which to deal with all international contacts and situations. Trump scores a zero on all those qualities. He is the worst thing that ever happened to this country, bar none.

 

But then, paying attention to comments from the crackpots in the nosebleed seats is not something responsible adults do. Anyone can say anything, and of course that is the leftist forte, basically the whole case for them. There are certain qualities a person must have in order to be credible, such as the capacity to think as mature adults, and that is pretty much universally absent among them.