http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/06/donald-trump-european-union-brexit-flip-flop I think that, with all our heads spinning from His flip-flops, reversals and contradictions (sometimes in the same sentence), we should start highlighting anything that He has maintained the same position on for more than a hummingbird's heartbeat. THAT is my opinion per Forum Rules #4, 10, 13 and 14a/14c.
I googled the quote "we will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity" and not even Huff & Puff or MSNBC is writing about it.
This is what Trump actually said according to your article: He summed it up this way: "We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability." Nothing controversial, no flip flops, no contradictions with Brexit which is about British sovereignty, democracy, and immigration, not global economy and free trade that Trump was addressing. A country can maintain sovereignty, be democratically governed by elected officials and still fully participate in global economy, you know. Duh, you libs are fun.
Yes, He, Trump is the veritable embodiment of consistency, ironclad principle and unshakeable conviction. Until some bright shiny object catches his eye.
Whether you agree with Brexit or not (and I'm of 2 minds), of course it is about economy and free trade. THAT was, and remains, the primary consideration of the EU.
That is not and never was a major consideration in the "Leave" camp, brexit has nothing to do with cancelling participation in global economy or free trade. It was indeed a huge part of the "Remain" fear mongering hysteria but guess what, dozens of countries are not run by unelected officials in Brussels, don't have open border policies and are still global economic powers.
Both sides used - SHOCK! - fear and scaremongering. Trump, going by his comments leading up to and after it, obviously didn't understand the whole thing. Not surprising as he generally is not, to put it mildly, a details and policy guy. But he really had not clear idea what was involved, which he knows is not a problem as far as His followers are concerned. I've an awful lot of Brit friends and they are pretty much evenly split with none of them fervent about their opinion. I would've been inclined to stay but I can understand the leave position quite well and would, if I were still there, have little problem living with it. There are, however, consequences that sometimes people don't recognise in the heat of moment but subsequently have to live with. I leave you with this...............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEWpK_Dl7M
Not at all! Many Brits wanted out of the EU because they surrendered so much sovereignty to Brussels and national autonomy. The EU set the standards for how many refugees Great Britain would take in, for instance. All laws must conform to EU standards, not necessarily those of Great Britain. Acceptance of ALL EU legislation, and so on. This is far more than a mere economic club. Membership in the European Union requires that Great Britain, and other nations now interested in leaving the fold, place their historic and national sovereignty second, behind the EU, if the bureaucrats in Brussels demand it. Access to free markets pulls nations in. Giving up their national souls to the EU is what is driving them away.
Yes, of course. You give up something FOR something. It's transactional. You don't get something for nothing. A majority apparently decided it wasn't worth it anymore. Not complicated and very understandable. People, companies and countries do it all the time. This was just larger but the premise is the same. I'm sure the loathing-Britain-yesterday/loving-Britain-today American wingnuts will twist this into some sort of affirmation of their desire to repeal the past century of progress in the States but it is, of course, no such thing.
Right. I don't know who you think holds an opposing viewpoint but the British absolutely decided it wasn't worth being in the German led EU club anymore when it meant surrendering their autonomy to a bunch of faceless bureaucrats in Brussels. You seem extremely defensive. I wonder why? Who exactly are those people that "loathed" England? You can imagine anything in your own mind you like but I'm not aware of anyone who has been contemptuous of England but our dear president. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/president-obamas-biggest-british-gaffes/article/2503321 And his threats didn't exactly win the day when the Brits decided to leave the EU. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...ld-be-back-of-line-for-trade-deal-post-brexit As for your comments about repealing the last century of progress over this I'll attribute that to a hyperactive imagination and your fear that the global resurgence of nationalism might life Donny Trump over that atrocious crone, Hillary Clinton. I sure hope so.
Not defensive at all. I've no dog in the fight. This glorious website is constantly filled with screeds from patriots about the horrible failings and faults of decadent, Sharia law ruled, socialist Britain. It is a constant, like the bad-black-people daily threads. As far as "holding an opposing viewpoint".........48% of the people who voted did. I'd call that substantial.
I've seen no posts knocking England that weren't in kind replies to several insufferable British trolls that seem to spend most of their time getting off by insulting and belittling the U.S. (Obama's obvious distaste for England, notwithstanding). It was but not quite as substantial as the people that voted to leave the EU behind. And there are a number of nations already lining up to leave the mutual suicide pact called the E.U.
1. You confuse ridiculing the loony American right wing with criticising America as a whole (which the loony right wing also does quite regularly). 2. Congrats! You appear to have grasped the basics of democratic voting. I'm sure that will make the first Tuesday in November easier to handle.
This calls for a post by post determination but many of the posts I've seen simply enjoy knocking everything American. From America's military even to the aid we gave Great Britain in WWII that kept their little nation afloat. Anything that can be construed as a slap to the US, the band of trolls will employ. I see it every day. I believe it will be easy to handle and downright enjoyable.
Not if you deal with Obama. You get everything for nothing. The US doesn't get (*)(*)(*)(*). Cuba didn't have to give up anything. They're getting a nice injection of foreign business now without having to change diddly squat. Neither did Iran. Here's Xbillion$. Now promise not to develop weapons. Pretty please. Shake. Oh please😊 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
