Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    It's not. Aaron Brown says he got it from NASA but you can't verify that.
    My source says something else and it's from NOAA
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Oceanic_and_Atmospheric_Administration
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems you love to use an outdated report. As I was reading the data, turns out that it dates to 1996.

    So, you allege science (who the hell is John Galt and who is science?) understands this and of course what is science doing about this?

    What scientific program is devoted to extraction of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and the ocean?

    Clearly this is providing an excellent income for a particular few, can you name them?
     
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    "The cold waters of Earth's deep ocean have not warmed measurably since 2005, according to a new NASA study, leaving unsolved the mystery of why global warming appears to have slowed in recent years."

    https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=4321
     
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    NASA data doesn't agree according to OP link
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Still do we have an intelligent guesstimate as to what percentage of the greenhouse effect is affected by human activity.
     
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    No, I doubt it. Chicken littles are easy to ignore.
     
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    And who is doing that?
     
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    oh yeah, you keep it up that global warming scientists want to control your behavior.
     
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    But of course they do. Well, not the scientists per se. They've seen their obscure field become the "hottest" (pardon the pun) area of science in the World. Of course, abandoning the Scientific Method was required. And don't dare go against the tide. That would end a career.

    No, it's the people using the science they paid for who will control your behavior. It's not even debatable.
     
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    I don't think the concern really became evident among a critical mass of scientists until the 1970's. Ironically this occurred during the same time the media was erroneously reporting on global cooling.
     
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    The IPCC's AR5 report was published in 2013. It is the latest report available. AR6 is scheduled to be released in 2020 I believe.

    I'm not sure where 1996 came from.
     
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    yeah maybe in your dreams. again you have over estimated other peoples concern for you :)
     
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    The link in the OP only says the lower troposphere has cooled. The heat storage mediums on Earth include land, ocean, ice, and atmosphere. In fact, the ocean accounts for nearly 90% of the total heat uptake and it didn't marched higher in the last 2 years.
     
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    The greenhouse gas effect puts a +33C nudge on the lower troposphere temperature. Of the 1C rise in temperature from 1960 it is believed the additional GHGs put a +2C nudge on top of that. However, due to our aerosol pollution this is reduced to a net of +1.0C because aerosols are putting a -1.0C nudge on the temperature. So let's go with +1.0C. That means human activity has increased the greenhouse gas effect by 1 / 34 = 2.9%.
     
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    No more than you've over estimated other people's concern for you. :)

    How are the Warmists solutions to "climate change" going to be adopted without requiring changes in lifestyle, living, and working?
     
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    fyi, the power plant of an auto is irrelevant, whether it be electric or internal combustion.

    bottom line, electric motors are far more efficient, or even diesel electric for hauling freight. then airplanes, turbines are far more efficient.
     
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    That damned antarctica. How dare scientists lie about how cold it is there.
     
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    It is not the engine, it is the fuel tank. A person using gasoline can actually travel a distance of 600 miles. No battery lasts remotely that long so there is added expense there. The electric motor is fine. But have you seen those battery packs? If you have a spare $2500 on you, you can actually afford one.
     
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    OK, what about wild elephants, and other abundant wild animals? Does their methane count for much?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It came from the AR5 report my friend.
     
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    Climate science is currently based on scewed models that are not based on historical facts.

    And Climate Cycle wise based on past cycle facts says we are still in a preglacial period of the cycle. What see is the climate shifting and changing as it always has, when before use of fossil fuels and past use of aeroles
     
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    I'm not following you. What does Antarctica being cold have to do with concern regarding global warming not reaching a critical mass of scientists until the 1970's?
     
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    Are you saying that you found a citation in AR5 from 1996? If so then yes, new evidence became available in 1996 like it does pretty much every year. What does that have to do with AR5 being published in 2013?
     
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    I don't know. That's a good question. You should see if you can look up the answer and let us all know what you find.
     
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