Don't Vote

Trump could cure cancer and give everyone 1 million dollars cash and you'd complain about him.

 

Let me know when he does either and then you can put your bullshit hypothesis to the test.

 

It's not a hypothesis. It's just fact. There's nothing positive Trump could do that would change your radical views.

 

Considering that neither of those two hypothetical events have actually occurred, nor have you seen my reaction following those theoretical events, then yes, it is a hypothesis.

 

I came close to not voting in 2016 mainly because of my disdain for both major party candidates. I did vote, for a third party candidate to officially register my contempt for whom each major party nominated. This November, with Georgia's choice for governor, one a wacko rightest, the other a wacko leftest, there is no way I would vote for either. The only question left for me, is it worth going to the polls to officially register my scorn once again or just say to heck with it.

Why can't either party nominate or offer a decent candidate today that isn't some sort of wacko? Probably because extremist have taken over both major parties.

 

If you don't vote you are one less vote that any candidate needs to offset in order to win. In effect you are voting FOR everybody. If you really like everybody so much that you just can't choose one or the other, then yes, don't vote. Non-voters are why we have Trump as most were Hillary voters who believed lying Republican propaganda about her and wanted to cast a "protest" vote by staying home. Whatever else can be said about Trump voters, they DO vote, and that was the main reason they "won"

If we liberals lose this time it may be our last chance. Neither Trump nor the Republicans are any great advocates of fair elections and they have made this abundantly clear. If you are even slightly liberal you MUST vote and vote Democrat this time or you may never get a meaningful vote again

 

And he could eat your firstborn while you would beg for the privilege of bringing him catsup.

America needs leaders whose hatred and devotion falls somewhere short of BOTH these extremes. Politicians are one of those few professions we WANT to bore us

 

This country needs citizens who fall short of BOTH extremes. In which case you will get the sort of politicians you prefer.

 

How do you see this last scenario unfolding? How will you lose a meaningful vote?

I suggest that this sort of hyperbole, the suggestion that you will lose a meaningful vote, is exactly what troubles this country.

 

Democracy is nothing more than the tyranny of the majority. There is no moral or rational argument that reasons if 50% + 1 person supports something or someone that it is moral.

So, participation in democracy is endorsement of the mob mentality...that might makes right.

I refuse to lower myself to that standard.

 

Should 18 year olds be allowed to vote or not. Some say they can be drafted so that qualifies them to vote. Women can't be drafted. Why should they be allowed to vote if that is the decider?

The problem with depending on the 18 year old vote is they are not dependable. Older people feel it is a responsibility and vote. Unless the young are given a special motivation they will not vote. They are also easily moved by fads. They all want to be part of the cool crowd. The Dims pulled that off with Obama. All the kids wanted to elect a Black president. They don't have that going for them this term. They won't vote.

 

I have this idea that no one should be allowed to vote until they have lived outside of their parent's home, and supported themselves with a full-time job (or two part-time jobs) for five years. Two reasons: One is that it is hard to have a reality-based view of the world while you are still living in your parent's basement. Two is that I have a problem with someone who isn't paying taxes (or not much) having a say in how other people's money is spent. This would also solve the problem of college students ruling the world.

 

The video is an anti-Trump "resistance" video.

Notice at 1:00 where Donald Trump is punched in the face by a fist.

Just another Democratic circus propaganda video going low.

Alinkyism 101: Divide society, drive a wedge between the young and the old.

 

Anyone that doesn't vote has absolutely no right to bitch about the government they wind up with.

 

I thought it might, but he has been co-opted, just like every president in recent memory. Now he's just another neocon puppet.

 

I've heard this mindless little nugget a thousand times so please tell me, why is that?

 

No vote = vote for the republicans
But, if you not happy with life, the right vote is a vote against incumbent regardless of the party association.

 

...because that approach had worked so well in the past.

 

It wasn't the old fart establishment Dems that made this happen!

http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-2018-primaries-by-the-numbers.542328/

The Progressives are appealing to the Millennials who are massively burdened with college debts and want to have an actual future for themselves. The Kavanaugh hearings just provided a great deal of motivation for all women to vote including the young.

The Progressives did the math and figured out how to get the nonvoters to the polls in the primaries and the young comprise the largest bloc of nonvoters. Ignore them at your own risk.

 

Which is exactly why the Progressives have been targeting that demographic and winning their primaries.

 

Certainly not the "brightest".

She should've gotten rid of Abedin the moment Abedin decided to stay with Weiner in 2013.

Abediin was the "loose end" that sunk her.

 

simple sometimes is best I suppose, unintended consequence be damned.

 

Neo con? What foreign military adventures has he initiated?

 

In Bulgaria, if you don't vote, your vote should not count, technically. But in practice, it does count, because they illegally redistribute your vote. So you better go and vote for the biggest underdog and loser if ye really want to stay outside. Stray dogs are everywhere, no country, no continent will stop their defiled and ill-bred practices.

And plus, here if ye don't vote, there's a $30 fine. Police Dept. fines ye. Municipal Police.

Now we know how they got the money for this!
And if I partially pay their oil change, which I actually do by paying taxes, I should totally drive that, at least make a spin, right?

 

Initiated? None, yet. Although he seems to be eyeballing Iran with more intensity as of late.

Continued? Well, basically all of them, despite promises to draw down our presence. Afghanistan, for example.

Expanded? Syria. He promised not to get involved there, yet he has allowed himself to be drawn deeper and deeper into that conflict on the side of the terrorist-cum-rebels. He's already launched two illegal strikes against the Syrian government and now he's telling Syrian and Russian forces not to liberate Idlib from Al Qaeda. A 100% reversal of his campaign promises and rhetoric.

And then there is his decision to arm the fascist regime in Kiev over the strong objections of the Russian government. I'm so glad we're escalating tensions with a nuclear power in order to help neo-Nazis ethnically cleanse eastern Ukraine.