DPR, LPR and Kherson Schedule Referendums on Joining Russia for September 23-27

https://sputniknews.com/20220920/li...ussia-on-extending-grain-deal-1100992221.html

When the inhabitants of the regions vote to become part of Russia, and then Putin signs a decree on the admission of these regions to Russia, the regions will become part of Russia.
Consequently, if Ukraine continues shelling these regions, it will actually shell the territory of Russia. And this, in turn, gives the full right to Russian to declare war on Ukraine.
And this, in turn, legally leads to the fact that any state that supplies Ukraine with any military and dual-use products automatically becomes a party to hostilities.
And this, in turn, legally gives the Russians the right to launch any military strike on the territory of such a state.
In reality, it might look like this.
For example, Western countries supply weapons to Poland (for transfer to Ukraine), but the Russians launch rocket attacks on the accumulation of weapons in Poland.
Poland is a member of NATO. NATO countries in the media will start squealing about "aggressive" Russia and will yell about the fifth article on collective security, puff out their cheeks and fart loudly. In this way, they will follow the fifth article of the charter, which says - "... if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence .... will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary,..."
That is, they will continue to yell and fart loudly.
Full text here https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm
There is another option.
After strikes against the accumulation of military equipment on the territory of another state, the states can start a direct military confrontation with Russia.
And this will lead to the fact that, according to the adopted military doctrine of Russia, Russia can launch nuclear strikes on aggressor countries.
And, as the President of Russia said - "Russians will go to heaven, but the rest will just die"
Because, again, I repeat the words of the Russian president - "If there is no Russia in this world, then such a world we do not need."
So stock up on popcorn. We are waiting for a new world order.

 

Like your fake referenda, your nuclear threats won't stop the Ukrainians taking back their land.

 

After five months of all-out war, the Kremlin appears to have refined its plans for the future of the temporarily occupied territories in southeastern Ukraine.

Currently Russian forces control about 20 percent of this Ukrainian territory, once populated by over eight million people. Today those parts of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia oblasts that are under Russian military control are only thinly populated: local people have fled the battles and missile strikes, going either to Ukrainian government–controlled regions, to Europe, or to Russia.

For those who remain, the Kremlin has a new plan: annexation instead of secession. Annexation would ensure Moscow’s control over the local population and extend its “nuclear umbrella” onto the newly conquered land.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/kremlins-plans-annex-southeastern-ukraine-go-effect

 

Quote from your favorite Wikipedia.
"The Poseidon, previously known by Russian codename Status-6 (Russian: Status-6), is an autonomous, nuclear-powered, and nuclear-armed unmanned underwater vehicle under development by Rubin Design Bureau, capable of delivering both conventional and nuclear payloads. The Poseidon is one of the six new Russian strategic weapons announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin on 1 March 2018. The first public appearance of Poseidon dates back to September 2015 and cites Pentagon sources."

 

Ahahaha....You are confusing the fake American elections with the will of the people.
Former citizens of Ukraine with delight vote for joining Russia.

 

Yeah, I'm sure the people your thugs have been bombing and shooting for several months are just itching to be part of your dirt-poor, oppressive autocracy.

 

You can write anything. But the fact remains. The Russians returned the Crimea and also the Russians will return all their lands.
And about "human rights", "occupation", "aggression" and other nonsense, you can tell the Afghans, Iraqis, Vietnamese, Libyans, Syrians, Serbs .... and so on.

 

Let's face reality.
1. Reality shows that impoverishment is happening in Europe and in the US. This is Europe and the United States has a rising inflation of the progressive poverty of the population.
Russia has a huge budget surplus and Russia's revenues have grown strongly.
2. Cutthroats, or rather Ukrainian fascists, bombed these republics for eight years. And you shamefully kept silent about it.
So naturally, people living in these territories will vote with great pleasure for joining Russia.
By the way, I don't know when the referendum will be in the regions of Odessa, Nikolaev, Kharkov, Sumy, Chernihiv, Dnepropetrovsk....etc. But the fact that there will be such a referendum is 100%

 

What do you have to say about your Nazis? You know, the one's that have been shelling civilians for 8 ****ing years straight?

Just to remind you of who you support, and anyone who supports "the ukraine", those scum nazis shelled a small grocery store in Donetsk City yesterday....13 civilians died. Women, kids. And it was done with a US-supplied M777 howitzer.

Take a good long look at the woman...blown in half. That's what you support.

https://rumble.com/v1krjut-another-red-line-and-innocent-people-died.html

 

You should try facing reality. There might be redemption for you yet if you would.

Isn't it convenient for the ruZZian ultra-nationalists that the people under their occupation allegedly just so happen to want to be part of their broke-dick "empire"? Imagine that. Imperialists want to retake a country that wants no part of their empire and, golly gee, they all suddenly want to be part of it after all! They just needed a little convincing at gunpoint.

"Democracy" po-russkiy -- tell the people what they want and fake a vote to help convince them.

 

I'm not opposed to the idea of a referendum to decide it, no nation has a right to keep a populace that doesn't want to remain, but doing it during the middle of an active war is ridiculous.

 

According to a study by the Institute for Political and Sociological Research, joining Russia is supported by 94% of the residents of the DPR, 93% of the residents of the LPR, 87% in the Zaporozhye region and 80% in the Kherson region.
In addition, a number of international observers will be present at the referendum.
It is in the United States that international observers are not allowed to participate in elections. However, this is not surprising, in the United States today there is a fascist dictatorship, where even the former president is being repressed and elections are being rigged.
Russians have a saying - don't judge by yourself. It's about you.

 

Lol! An illegal fake "referendum" on a territory Russia only partially controls and is losing ever more of daily. This will put Putin in a humiliating position of making demands Ukraine leave territory Russia hasn't ever controlled during the war and which it is unable to enforce any demands. Sure, keep playing the fool. We have already seen this game doesn't work as Ukraine has repeatedly attacked occupied Crimea (which Russia already falsely claims it annexed) yet nothing happened.

At worst Putin might use this as an excuse to mobilze but 1) Russia didn't have enough basic equipment for its existing pathetic force in Ukraine so it definitely won't have enough equipment for newly mobilized forces. 2) Russia stupidly gutted its training cadre and sent them to the front which means they will have a hard time training any new conscripts. 3) Throwing untrained conscripts into the fight is a great way to waste men and material ineffectively. The best they can hope for is that they will be marginally useful on defense but morale will be even lower as people who don't want to be there yet are forced to will not be happy.

 

At the moment there is no war in Ukraine. Russia is conducting a special operation in Ukraine. Ukraine did not declare war on Russia. Russia also did not declare war on Ukraine. What the Western media write is fakes and exaggerations.
By the way, branches of the gas pipeline from Russia to Europe pass through the territory of Ukraine. And Ukraine guards these streams. (This is to understand the real situation.)

 

Russia will not be occupying Crimea in a year and no nukes will be used as even Xi informed Putin he would be isolated and cut off if he crosses the nuclear red line. Further more if Russia uses nukes the US, UK, and France will all also use nukes. It is not the trump card low I.Q. Russian propagandists think.

 

The Institute of Socio-Political Research under the Russian Academy of Sciences (ISPR RAS) is a leading Russian academic research center.


When the responses are weighted by the estimated total population on either side of the line of control in the Donbas before the war (1.7 million in the Kyiv-controlled zone and 2.1 million in the separatist republics), more people preferred to remain in Ukraine (42 percent) than be annexed to Russia (31 percent). Just 9 percent opted for independence. For this sensitive question with a high degree of uncertainty about Kyiv’s and Moscow’s actions, the “don’t know” ratio is high at 18 percent.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...kraine-donbas-donetsk-luhansk-public-opinion/

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https://archive.ph/ERr0T

HOW MUCH THEY PAYING YOU FOR THIS PROPAGANDA BORIS?

 

The Russian troll farm propagandists only make $1000 per month (according to former employees who have spoken with reporters). That is $250 per week or $6.25 per hour for an eight hour day. Sadly, average Russians are in such a state of abject poverty this is considered a good wage even in first tier cities such as St. Petersburg or Moscow. So we have truly immoral losers who willingly repeat lies they know are untrue for a fraction of what even the lowest paid fast food worker gets paid here in California. What pathetic losers.

 

Ahahaha.... You can write whatever you want, but the end result matters. Look at the Crimea. Once again, the end result matters.
And we will see him soon.

 

It's even more pathetic that we have some people on this forum who are (presumably) doing it for free.

 

Ahahaha .... It takes only four missiles to destroy Britain and France. And these states will cease to exist.
As for Crimea .... for eight years now, Western media have been writing "in a year Russia will lose Crimea."
But the Russians are only expanding their territories.
By the way, Alaska, Northern California and New York are also Russian territories. Temporarily occupied by the United States. But as Bismarck said - "Russians always return their own."

 

It only takes one missile fired towards Britain or France for Russia to be destroyed.

 

The result will be Russian defeat and removal from all of Ukraine. Even a pathetic paid propagandist like you knows that is the end game for Russia. The only question is how many of Russia's few remaining young men (total Russian military age males of conscription age is just 2 million in all of Russia thus why they are now accepting 55 year olds in the Army) will be killed or maimed before the dictator Putin is forced to admit he has lost.

Russia's demographic collapse will just come faster and its economy will collapse faster as their few remaining 18-25 year old males are forced out of the economy to die for Putin's dreams of empire.

 

I'm wondering why you write this?
As I wrote above to one strange person - the result is important.
For some reason, you were silent about human rights, legal conditions and other nonsense when Ukrainian fascists bombed these territories for eight years. Why are you silent about the aggression against Iraq, against Libya, against Syria...etc? Why were you silent when American planes bombed Serbia, a sovereign country in the center of Europe? But now you are preoccupied with these conditions. That's funny.
You better look at how elections are held in the United States, where the police, under threat of arrest, do not allow international observers to participate in the elections. Look at how the usurpers in Washington carry out repressions against the former president and his supporters. This should be more of your concern.

 

You, of course, are not one of them.

 

Nope, i was talking specifically about you.