Dr Paul, A true Story of Compassion During a Time of Prejudice in TX

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    He already said he wants someone like Stalin.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what trolling is?
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Good one! :-D

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    What a swell guy! Too bad he backs, or at least sees nothing wrong with, Iran's attempts to get nuclear weapons.

    He'll never, ever be president! Never!
     
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    He is more in line with letting the pet (Israel) off the leash (stop paying them not to attack) so they can take care of their own protection as they see fit. And also that there is no proof that Iran is getting a nuke. You willing to sacrifice more US troops to the gods of money and oil on the same propaganda they used to take us to war with Iraq where we found NOTHING? And because of taking out Saddam, we now have this problem with Iran BTW. It is our own fault.

    Iraq's military was crap compared to Iran's who is also backed by Russia and China. 5000 American lives lost in Iraq, want to take a guess about how many will die in Iran? You think Ron Paul wants to dismantle our military, wait till people stop volunteering for these senseless wars and we lose the strength of patriotism type fighters and get the kind we had in Veitnam.
     
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    Are you ignoring this?

    Wolf: But sir, are you saying that society should just let him die?

    Dr Paul: No. I practiced medicine before we had medicaid in the early 1960s when I got out of medical school. I practiced at Santa Rosa Hospital in San Antonio and the churches took care of them. We never turned anybody away.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    I just provided an example of what Ron Paul actually did in a real situation, and you are using this hypothetical example to debate that?

    I wonder how many others Dr Paul assisted for free?
     
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  9. Yosh Shmenge

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    This is the Paul friendly go to position whenever someone mentions Paul's absolute nonchalance about Iran having nuke weapons: Millions will die in the war you want us to fight in Iran!...Frankly, it's crap, and no one is suggesting a ground war in Iran to divest those theocratic nut jobs of their nuclear weapons.

    I would just prefer to see a presidential candidate other than someone who doesn't seem to care if Iran gets a nuke or not, and that seems to even suggest Iran should have one! That's Ron Paul...nutjob.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Stay on topic.
     
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    You really think if we start bombing throughout Iran, those allies of theirs wont step in? Have you ever heard of a war being won by Air Forces alone? We have seen it before with N Korea, they kept getting backing by China. Troops will die if we start attacking Iran, to think it wont happen is just plain ignorance.

    Again, there is no proof Iran is getting a bomb, much less Ron saying he is ok with them getting a bomb. If they were getting one, Ron would prefer Israel take care of it as they did in Iraq and Syria. It is Israels region, we don't need to be stepping on their toes.
     
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    Sorry, will stop answering him now.
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    No Problem. :)

    I actually don't mind a short tangent. It's when the thread is getting completely derailed that is frustrating.
     
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    He actually proposes to cut funding of israel. That couple of billion a year they get would hurt them quite a bit.

    And if you look at oil prices letting the middle east have another war would be a very very bad thing.
     
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    China nor russia would want to be draggedinto such a thing. This isnt the 60's .

    Dont need to win anything just take away the risk.


    Dont know if your realise this but iraq is a lot closer to israel then iran. I doubt there is much israel can do.
     
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    If their state or municipal government wants to foot the bill, then that's their prerogative under the Tenth Amendment.

    Of course, you could always put your money where your mouth is and do something about it, if you care so much...
     
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    He had the chance to have insurance and decided not to. At that point its his issue not the tax payers.
     
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    It's YOU (and other Ron Paul supporters) that envision this invasion of Iran scenario. Not anyone else! There are better ways to deter Iran, but I guess it makes for a better argument for you boys to pretend otherwise.


    There is proof Iran is working on a bomb and U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has publicly stated so.
    Ron Paul stood up in front of the nation in a republican debate and said "why shouldn't Iran have nuclear weapons?".
    Were you sleeping at the time? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDvaTqLlZlA"]Ron Paul "Why shouldn't Iran have nukes?" - YouTube[/ame]

    Yeah, you should drop this line of defense.
     
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    So you simply let him die? 20 years of investing in this citizen gone because he made 1 stupid mistake.

    That sure makes sense and is compasionate.
     
  20. Ethereal

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    St. Jude Children's Hospital provides millions of dollars worth of free, quality care for its patients everyday.
     
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    Ron Paul would have no objection to a state or municipal government financing his medical care, nor would he have any objection to you financing it yourself. Of course, you would never do that, because you don't really care about this hypothetical sick person; if you did, there would be no need to involve the central government because all the "caring" and "compassionate" liberals out there wouldn't hesitate to pay for it themselves.
     
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    Tough? In the hypothetical loaded question Wolf asked Paul the man HAD A GOOD JOB and TURNED DOWN INSURANCE... This is a THIRTY YEAR OLD ADULT.

    Not having insurance when its avaible and affordable is more then a little mistake. Personal responsibility look it up.
     
  23. camp_steveo

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    What about the Shriners?
     
  24. Ethereal

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    In a free market healthcare system, his medical costs would not be so astronomical, and under a Constitutional, Federalist system, states and municipalities would have more than enough funds to subsidize his medical care. Failing that, you could amend the Constitution.

    You see, there are numerous solutions that are consistent with Paul's political philosophy. The false dichotomy between overbearing central government and complete public non-involvement is just a statist canard.
     
  25. camp_steveo

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    Let's just ignore the story in the OP. :rolleyes:

    Ron Paul would provide the medical help free of charge to a poor person.

    To someone like in Wolf's question, Paul said no one was turned away. He would end up with a bill.
     

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