Draw Muhammad Day

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  1. diligent

    diligent New Member

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    Under age? Who was under age? also, define 'under age'.

    No doubt this is your idea if the ideal age for girls, from Saudi Amber publication:

    'In a recent TV interview, Saudi cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif defended the marrying off of under-age girls, saying "'Aisha said that when a girl reaches the age of nine, she becomes a woman." In the interview, which aired on the Saudi Al-Daleel TV channel on February 19, 2010, he played down the extent of the phenomenon, saying out of 10 million Saudi women, only 3,000 girls under the age of 13 were married off to men more than 20 years their senior. "This issue has been blown entirely out of proportion," he said.'

    Well he would say that wouldn't he.
     
  2. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Your ignorance is most amusing, please continue with your ranting.
     
  3. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Ok, this doesn't actually show that having sex is legal at that age. Mohammad married, according to most, but not all, at the age of 9, and consummated the marriage when she was between 14-16. Remember most of his marriages were political. Aisha, whilst she became his most beloved and outspoken wife (she often scolded him in public and being the misogynist he is he never punished her) was also the daughter of one of his closest allies.
     
  4. diligent

    diligent New Member

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    Your posts seem and look more childish every passing day. Maybe a month or two at a Child Care Centre might improve your outlook. But they don't particularly encourage cry babies, especially those who cry for despicable thugs like the late unlamented Osama Bin Laden and his ilk.
     
  5. diligent

    diligent New Member

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    What a joke when you decalre that 'Most of his marriages were political'.

    What a pathetic excuse for child abuse.
     
  6. k7leetha

    k7leetha Banned

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    Ah, the classic "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Mkay, let's hear it.

    So do I. Mine start first, and my "religion" is that I am free to draw what I want and not be threatened for it. When my fellow countrymen are threatened, I make a point and continue to do what caused the threat. It's a message of not being intimidated.

    Since you mention respect, where is the respect for my rights, my freedom? Do you seriously assert that any religion that makes an assertion of faith ought to literally change the way people not of their country, government, religion, or sect live their lives? Please, mind your response, because I might make some demands of you.

    No, it isn't. I'm telling you that it is to take a stand on my freedoms. If you see that as disrespectful, that is your problem. I'm sorry you see taking a stand on freedom is disrespectful.

    Another "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

    I'm willing to hear suggestions, but more to the point I don't care if muslims feel disrespected; I'm drawing a picture, and I find it ludicrous to the highest degree that you think anyone ought to be subjected to the dogmas of any religion.

    No, it isn't. It's taking a stand for something that you think you ought to bend over for. So, I stand, you bend over. No problem, but don't try to tell me I'm unAmerican.

    Bah, there you went and did the "no true Scostman" fallacy a third time. :laughing:
     
  7. mikeyy

    mikeyy New Member

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    Here is where you get mixed up. It is their religion. You are mad at terrorists who claim that religion so you disrespect the entire people. Do you understand the distinction? You are acting the way the terrorists do. They find one legitamate gripe and extrapolate to involve an entire people. I don't appreciate the attack on the USS Liberty. Or Israels continued spying on us. But I don't attack all Jews or their religion because some Jews trespassed on me and my country. You are simply making an excuse to dis all Muslims. It is petty and cheap. Not to mention bigoted.
     
  8. k7leetha

    k7leetha Banned

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    Do you understand that I don't care either way? I'm not going to not draw Muhammad just because some religious people don't want me to, as I stated before, I find the idea ludicrous to the highest degree. However, in this particular case, there is motivation for doing so, and that is in fact (and thank you for finally making the distinction for yourself) to send a message to the extremists that we are not subject to their whims.

    Wow. That might be the worst comparison anyone has made in this sub-forum. My freedom to draw whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) I want is in N O W A Y like what terrorists do.

    Oh this ought to be fantastic. Please explain how my choosing to exercise my freedom is in any way like a bunch of psycho terrorists planning hostile takeovers, murder/genocide, for their feelings getting hurt about their religion?

    I've never attacked a Jew either, and I don't really discuss their religion too much because I don't know the specifics of it.

    No, you're making yet another fallacy (I've lost count of how many) I have no problem with muslims, at all, but as you refuse to acknowledge this I can only suspect that you are projecting, whether consciously or subconsciously, and that is petty and cheap, not to mention bigoted.

    This isn't about muslims, this is about terrorists. The problem you can't wrap your head around is that I don't care if muslims are offended or not - I'll draw what I please. End of story.

    Now, I demand that you are no longer allowed to draw pictures of Jesus on penalty of the death. Pictures of Jesus offend me, therefore my demand is every bit as valid as any extremist muslim.

    If the United States Government stated that no citizen was allowed to draw Muhammad, how would you react?
    If a muslim group stated that no citizen was allowed to draw Muhammad, how would you react?

    If the United States Government stated that no citizen was allowed to draw Jesus, how would you react?
    If a muslim group stated that no citizen was allowed to draw Jesus, how would you react?

    If the United States Government stated that no citizen was allowed to draw any images reflecting the bible, how would you react?
    If a muslim group stated that no citizen was allowed to draw any images reflecting the bible, how would you react?
     
  9. mikeyy

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    There is no law about walking on a flag but how does it make you feel? You are saying someone like a government is trying to take your rights away. Nobody ever said you didn't have the right. Just that it isn't right. You can seem to make the distinction because in your own words above you don't care eithert way
     
  10. k7leetha

    k7leetha Banned

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    I'll respond to this when you respond to mine.
     
  11. k7leetha

    k7leetha Banned

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    About 1 week away from Draw Muhammad Day.

    If you are interested in drawing a picture of Muhammad, please let me know, I'd love to see them. Share them here, or you can send them to me via PM if you prefer to be anonymous on the forum about it.

    But whatever you do, please do send them out, whether it's emails, youtube, a blog, whatever medium you feel most comfortable with, make the message known.
     
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    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Regardless of how "walking on a flag" may make me feel, I have no right to kill someone for doing it. I--and I alone--am responsible for my actions.
     
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    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    I think it is the Muslims who need to realize that the rest of us are not subject to the vagaries of their chosen faith. Not to mention that the response of some Muslims sort or proves the point that maybe they are a little on the extreme side of the spectrum--calling for murder because someone drew a picture.
     
  14. k7leetha

    k7leetha Banned

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    But by others' logic, you can kill anyone you want and blame your actions on the person walking on the flag.

    It's simple: Make a demand, pontificate about respecting your demands, then make a threat, and if anyone doesn't bend over for your demands, you can blame them for your actions.
     
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    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Oh sure look what they did over in Bluckabluckastan when that jackass in Florida burned his Koran. Some of our fellow citizens--Americans--actually blame HIM for the murders committed by members of the "religion of peace" and not the actual murderers themselves. What what what!!!!! :shock:
     
  16. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see Christians or jews killing the creators of South Park when they depict Jesus or Jews in poor light...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1A82GDR0Zs"]YouTube - south park-kyle kills jesus[/ame]

    Islam needs to leave the 6th century and understand you can't riot or kill people that offend you.
     
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    No doubt. The whole purpose of a show like South Park is to offend--and they offend EVERYONE--liberals, conservatives, gays, lesbians, the obese, cops, rednecks, hipsters, stoners, etc.. It's called satire. Hell, they even made fun of Scientology--and offended one of their own cast members to the point where he left the show...

    Such is life. It is short, my friends--best to be enjoyed whilst one still can.
     
  18. GodTom

    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL except Muslims
     
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    Good point. Amazing what you can accomplish with a death threat.
     
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    GodTom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some people like to use fear to run the world.
     
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    Israel and the United States are doing well economically compared to most of the middle east, their more vulnerable to extremism.

    The US Christian fundamentalists and atheists come together in this rare instance for freedom of speech under the luxury provided to them by the troops.

    In those countries they would not get away with this, but when this freedom starts to endanger US troop lives in the middle east it becomes a problem here as well.

    Does south park really want to make cartoons that put the lives of the men and woman that protect their freedoms at risk?
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*) Muslim Extremists. If any culture should be exterminated it should be them.
     
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    what are you talking about? they have offended muslims many times and especially when the creators bashed them in Team America:World Police.
     
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    Islam is a cancer on the world & needs to be ERADICATED as such. Like any cancer, it needs a dose of RADIATION therapy.
     
  25. GodTom

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    I'd like to see them(Creators of South Park) depict any apostles of muhamad getting stabbed in the throat by a little Jewish boy.

    Boy that'd be the day!
     

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