Duped, divided and Desensitized America, how Trump outsmarted voters

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  1. Denizen

    Denizen Well-Known Member

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    The voters were duped by Trump who conspired with Russians and committed crimes to win the 2016 election.

    Trump is so corrupt and infused with criminality that he has desensitized US society to his criminal conduct.

    Arguably the worst aspect of Trump's crimes against democracy is the corruption of GOP lawmakers who have abandoned all pretense of ethics and morality as they align with master criminal Donald Trump.

    Donald Trump deserves to be expunged by impeachment or by the voters.

    http://www.rifuture.org/desensitized-america-how-trump-out-smarted-voters/

     
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  2. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nah. His worse crime was beating Hilary.
     
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  3. Gatewood

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    It's sort of like when Obama and his gang of ideological thugs declared this to be a nation seething with racism when that same nation elected him president and when before his election-bid racism had all but vanished from the nation's radar as an issue, since people were getting along just fine and since racist acts were punishable by law. This standard litany of woes -- that the Left claims to be on the edge of destroying this nation -- reads about the same.

    All are actually non-issues that the Left turns into issues -- via their essential ownership of most media outlets -- because otherwise nobody would have any reason to vote for a leftist . . . ever. They have to toss a hand full of acorns into the air and then SHRIEK that the resulting splatter means that the sky is falling.

    Trump's crime -- aside from having the audacity to win the 2016 election after Obama and Clinton conspired with the Russians to give the election to Clinton -- is that he keeps telling the absolute truth regarding the collective political Left and their schemes to end-run the Constitution while urinating all over the INTENTIONS of the laws of this land with their blatantly anti-ethical leftist activist judges.

    Then there is the vast bulk of this nation's media outlets which began politically and ideologically aligning themselves with the Left decades ago and then made the final step leftward during the election cycle of 2007/2008. The irony there, of course, is that openly playing their hand so that the average citizen now recognizes even ABC, CBS, and NBC/MSNBC/ CNN as essentially working for the DNC has only hurt both the fortunes and health of those same outlets.

    Trump told the truth about the collective political Left and since then the Left has been acting like vampires exposed to Holy water, writhing in agony while hissing in rage at everyone in sight. Nice!
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Sure, how dare the voters to vote for their own interests.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump isn't THAT smart. He didn't have to work as hard as you might think. Democrats practically gift wrapped the presidency for him with their wack-a-doodle policies. It's like if you asked someone if they'd rather take a punch to the face or a bullet. Most people would pick the punch...total no brainer
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think Trump duped any voters. The major problem was both major parties chose candidates most Americans didn't like and didn't want as president. Even though 56% of all Americans disliked and didn't want Hillary as president, 60% didn't like nor want Trump as president, under our two party system one had to win. Those numbers include 25% of all Americans who didn't want and disliked both.

    You had 6% of America, 9 million voters got to the polls so they could vote for a candidate they didn't know, never heard his message, had no media coverage, no money, never heard of before, knew he couldn't win, was just a third name on the ballot. But most important, his last name wasn't Trump nor Clinton. How many never got the motivation to vote and stayed home because of their disgust and disdain with both major party candidates, one will never know.

    2016 set a record for any major party candidate having the lowest favorable and highest unfavorable ratings in our history. The record breaking low favorable, Trump at 36%, next to lowest Clinton 38%. The record breading highest unfavorable, Trump at 60%, Clinton at 56%. The record holder prior to 2016 was Barry Goldwater back in 1964 with a 43% favorable/47% unfavorable. Trump and Clinton are the only two major party candidates to have over 50% of Americans having an unfavorable view of them along with being the only two major party candidates seen favorable by less than 40% of all American. Neither was want, one had to win, that is our system. Here's the list.

    Highest to lowest favorable/unfavorable ratings of each major party presidential candidate.

    Favorable/unfavorable

    1956 Eisenhower 84/12%

    1964 LBJ 81/13%

    1976 Carter 81/16%

    1960 JFK 80/14%

    1960 Nixon 79/16%

    1968 Nixon 79/22%

    1976 Ford 79/20%

    1972 Nixon 76/21%

    1968 Humphrey 72/28%

    1984 Reagan 71/30%

    1980 Carter 68/32%

    1984 Mondale 66/34%

    1980 Reagan 64/31%

    1992 Bill Clinton 64/33%

    2008 Obama 62/35%

    2012 Obama 62/37%

    1956 Stevenson 61/31%

    2004 G.W. Bush 61/39%

    2008 McCain 60/35%

    1992 G.H.W. Bush 59/40%

    2000 G.W. Bush 58/38%

    2004 Kerry 57/40%

    1996 Bill Clinton 56/42%

    1988 G.H.W. Bush 56/39%

    2000 Gore 55/45%

    2012 Romney 55/43%

    1972 McGovern 55/41%

    1996 Dole 54/45%

    1988 Dukakis 50/45%

    1964 Goldwater 43/47%

    2016 Hillary Clinton 38/56%

    2016 Donald Trump 36/60%
     
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  7. Denizen

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    You have deviated from Donald Trump's script. The Trump narrative now that it was Ukraine that conspired with Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani witnessed the whole thing.
     
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    Corrupt Obama and Clinton did both. Why would they ignore any chance to defeat Trump once they had already crossed certain lines? They went overseas -- via intermediaries -- illegally shopping for governments willing to play for pay regarding their efforts to defeat Trump. 'taint rocket science.
     
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    This Ukraine helping Clinton has been debunked. Try making up a new story.
     
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    Just because a democrat said that without any proof and no investigation doesn’t make it a fact.
     
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    It is only when you hear them listed that you start to think

    Where has all the honesty gone?

     
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    Just because your fat assed orange buddy & Rush Limbaugh say it does not make it true.
     
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    You however with that and your opening post have deviated from reality.
     
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    And it looks like the dems have learned nothing.
     
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    I thought this was debunked long time ago. :roll:
     
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    Why the sudden condemnation of the left Denizen? Ya, so they weren't smart enough to see thru the internet propaganda and put all three of their marbles behind their handlers and the MSM believing HILLARY was a sure thing! So what if millions of them just sat on the couch watching all their promises circle the shltter and the dreadful last gurgle as they evacuated the porcelain trough..

    I don't see the purpose of rubbing their little red noses in it this far down the road helps all that much! MPO, time spent reminding them GENTLY of their naivety of the digital world and maybe how they might handle it next election might be a better option at this point...
     
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    Trump actually is that smart. And his campaign used the Clausewitz triad to develop strategies.

    The Alinsky model has been totally outmatched by the brilliance of Clausewitz.

    And most of the Dem intellectual and academia think tanks are still perplexed.
     
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    There used to an expectation and pretense of honesty.

    Gone since Trump got elected
     
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    Testimony is proof.
     
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    Oh good grief no one has expected much I'm the way of honesty from politicians, especially when campaigning since I was in Jr high and that was a very long time ago.
     
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    Testimony about assumptions is proof of what?
     
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    Speaking of sentence structure ^^^
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Something wrong with that "sentence structure?"
     
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    By who? On what tarmac was that decided?
     
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    I think that the worse crime being committed in the US is being committed by FOX News and the many right wing radio talk show hosts, along with right wing web sites. The tend to propagate ideas that are not based on fact. It has a lot to do with why they call everything else fake.

    Dennis Prager is a real winner. Go to Prager U. and learn everything wrong. I could just imagine a college student thinking that Prager was correct, and getting very poor scores on his tests in college. How frustrating that would be, to have to unlearn all the garbage.
     

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