Durham investigation ends with a whimper

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  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's over.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/14/...uiry-trump-russia.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

    Durham had the authority to go anywhere, investigate anything, subpoena anyone. With that unlimited power, he found ... nothing. Sure, he'll make a final report insinuating something vague and sinister, but the point is there was no wrongdoing by Democrats. To say the least, that's going to disappoint a lot of conservatives, some of who have spent a couple years telling us thow Durham meant DOOM for all Democrats.

    There's a problem with witch hunts. There have to be some actual witches for them to work, otherwise they just look corrupt and ridiculous. There weren't witches any on the Democratic side. Compare that to, say, Mueller, who had no problems finding lots of people to convict.

    I do await seeing the conspiracy theories that the TrueBelievers put forth to explain their faceplant here.
     
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    Yup, they are perfect and not corrupt at all! No witches there! No text messages between an FBI agent and his lover pledging to overturn the 2016 election. Nope? tha tnever happened? they are more innocent than babies!
     
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    I want to know who came up w t
    Kinky hooker in the russia obama
    bed story
    bill & hillary !
     
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    And Bill and Loretta actually were talking about grandchildren and golf on the tarmac that day!

    And Peter Strozk is just a fine upstanding example of an FBI agent!
     
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  6. Hey Now

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    LMAO!!! The Trump Whine is in no way a whimper, more like a hit dog. As for Durham, he's got a lot of splainin' to do along with Billy "The Bagman" Barr.
     
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  7. mamooth

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    I understand the devastation being felt by certain people here.

    "DURHAM WILL DOOM THE DEMOCRATS" had been their core religious belief literally for years. And to see it collapse in such a humiliating fashion ... that must be crushing their souls.

    Plus, there's the cognitive pain they're suffering. If their masters lied to them this bigly about Durham, what else have they been lying to them about? But wait, their masters are perfect, and never lie! Ah! Contradiction! Pain!

    Not only could the witch hunt not find any witches, the witch hunt couldn't even scrape up enough evidence to fake any sensible stories of witches. It was the lamest witch hunt in history of witch hunts. And the whole world sees it, and sees how the Republicans have no regrets about staging the corrupt witch hunt. Quite the contrary, the Republicans have made it very clear that if put back into power, they intend to do nothing except stage even more witch hunts.

    "Vote for TheParty so we can get revenge on all those who have wronged TheParty!" -- The current GOP party plank.
     
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    The frustration with Durham's epic failure to make good on the wet dream of Trump, Billy the Bagman, and The Following is palpable. It was a double nothingburger with special sauce capped off by the acquittal of Sussmann. What a face plant.
     
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    "Mueller had no problem finding lots of people to convict" - Which is one of the reasons it was a witch hunt :) A Witch hunt goes after "Everyone" - having even the most minor relationship with the accused .. and the associates of the accused and teh aquaintences of the associates of the accused and so on.

    Glad we sorted that one out :)
     
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    Add another Orwellian reaction by a Trump supporter to the list. Finding criminal behavior resulting in convictions makes an investigation a witch hunt as up is to down.
     
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    Not sure what Trump Derangement Syndrome has to do with you inability to understand Orwell friend .. and my arguments against Trump are way better than yours. This dyslexia may be in part to the partisan rose colored glasses .. not sure were the made up false accusation comes from nor your propensity for strawman fallacy.

    The Mueller investigation became a kangaroo clown show roughly a month into it when they found out that Trump had nothing to do with the DNC Hack .. or the FB Ads. We went over this in great detail previously - so why are you returning to the same vomit hoping it won't smell bad ?
     
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    The whiners need not sulk because Durham failed miserably in exposing the Loser's highly touted


    If the Loser's butt boy gets his way, the myth crusher could still be on the taxpayer tab for years!

     
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    So you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty. Got it.
     
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    Respect for the rule of law is not a notion that ideologues entertain.

    The weird worshipers' paranoia casts all who do not march in lock goose step as demons.
     
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    It would appear that the Durham doge has been put down but needs to be put out to pasture by the RW. Why are RW posters avoiding this thread like the bloody plague???!!
     
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    Who says Durham is done?
     
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    Oh, there might be a few, here and there, but nothing compared to Trump, et al.
     
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    After three years and all he's accomplished is one guy no one has heard of cop a guilty plea which had nothing to do with the original objective, 'investigating the investigators'?

    It's over.
     
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    I think they've grown extremely fond of that classic tune: The Sounds Of Silence.
     
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    A "whimper" is being too kind. It ended in a dud. No convictions, no proof of the claims that the RW have made to be proven in court. Nothing.
     
  22. Patricio Da Silva

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    try "Bubblicious butt boy".

    To make an impactful alliteration, at least three colorful words will usually do the trick. But, be careful of detractors who might accuse you of being homophobic.
     
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  23. Patricio Da Silva

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    TDS is a thought terminating cliché, and, as such, not a valid counter point.

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    Well, let's take a look what YOU actually wrote;

    "Mueller had no problem finding lots of people to convict" - Which is one of the reasons it was a witch hunt

    Uhh, no, Not-so-Giftedone, it is primary reason why it IS NOT a witch hunt. The term, 'witch hunt' is correctly applied only to massive efforts to find crimes, criminals, and the like, yet proves a waste of time because none are forthcoming. Is that true for Mueller? No, because the Mueller Report, provided after 2 years, was some 500 pages, half of it described, in excruciating detail, Trump's many obstructions of justice, and ultimately wound up with 34 indictments, 7 guilty pleas, five incarcerations.

    Trump's obstruction suggested a strong consciousness of guilt that he was doing as it has been alleged, despite the fact that Mueller has deemed that he doubts there could be a successful prosecution of same, so he declined to make the charge. That doesn't mean that Trump is exonerated on the Obstruction charge, and Mueller said so.

    But Durham's three year investigation yielded one guilty plea, someone no one has heard of which did not achieve the objective of 'investigating the investigators -- heads will roll' as originally intended.

    The latter, therefore, is a classic example of a witch hunt. Thus, inescapably proving you do not understand the term.
    In your unicorn dreams, perhaps.

    Though not at the level as defined by Mueller required for 'conspiracy' to be charged, Trump solicited help from from Russia. Trump got help from Russia. And when he got that help, he did nothing to stop it.

    Nothing to do with the DNC hack? After Trump, in epic irresponsibility, blurted on national TV 'Russia, if you are listening' inviting Russia to commit cyber espionage on his opponent, what did Russia do? Commit cyber espionage. I don't recall if it was a different hack, but he had a lot do with it, nevertheless. Nothing like getting a go signal from a US candidate for president to help that candidate do what he says he approves of you doing.
     
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  24. Patricio Da Silva

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    No one on the right seems to care that if a President has extensive foreign businesses deals, and dealings with Russia, there is the clear possibility that he could be compromised, and given that Trump was tight lipped about those dealings, won't provide his tax returns though every president since Nixon has, even denying any relationship with Russia when we had a signed letter of intent to build a tower in Russia, giving Putin the penthouse if Trump could get permission to build, including his history of having one of his pageants held there, it would be derelict of the FBI not to look into it. And, like Peter said, doing so was a massive effort and would create a lot of unavoidable attention, never mind his 22 years working in counter intelligence and putting bad guys in jail, but you won't give the man one ounce of slack, you're just interested in any morsel, any innuendo that forwards the right wing agenda.

    Got it.
     
  25. Hey Now

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    Well, it is a good tune! ;)
     
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