Edward Snowden: Saint or Sinner?

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  1. YeahDavid

    YeahDavid New Member

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    Talking to my mother the other day, I was shocked that she felt Snowden was a hero. She's usually rather reactionary re. national security, but this time, she saw the light.

    Everybody keeps accusing this guy of treason, when in fact, all he's done is engage in whistleblowing. He hasn't given away state secrets to Al Qaeda. He hasn't blown agents and networks. He hasn't transmitted to the enemy the strategy of our troops during wartime. He's just revealed that the government is lying about the extent of their surveillance. That is actually a moral act.

    The government keeps arguing on Sunday talk shows that all they're doing is collecting metadata. In fact, Snowden has revealed that there's virtually no oversight and employees can access phone calls and email virtually at will. He said that if he had the president's phone number, he could have listened in.

    This is wrong. You should care.
     
  2. katsung47

    katsung47 Banned

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    778. Edward Snowden is a false flag (7/5/2013)

    My conclusion based on the following facts.

    1. Time line. It’s the development of the recent events, all related to the core plot- elimination of Kat Sung.

    (1) The final stage of Boston bombing. It is marked by the killing of Toadshev in late May and the retirement announcement of the Boston FBI Chief in early June.

    (2) On 6/7, an unusual private meeting between Obama and Xi (Chinese President) was arranged suddenly in California. Payment of the secret deal apparantly was an issue.

    (3) On 6/14, “Former US National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden revealed to Hong Kong’s English-language newspaper, the South China Morning Post, on Wednesday that Washington has hacked into hundreds of civilian targets in Hong Kong and mainland China.” http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/14/hong-j14.html

    2. Obviously, Snowden’s revelation is the result of that private summit. It is part of payment of a secret deal between the secret police of US and China.

    US recently “has repeatedly accused Beijing of perpetrating cyber-warfare, while China has continuously denied the accusations.

    The latest round in this blame game saw the US Defense Science Board publish a report saying that nearly 40 Pentagon weapons programs and almost 30 other defense technologies were compromised by Chinese hackers, some allegedly tied to the military or government. (http://rt.com/news/obama-xi-cyber-hacking-356/)

    It’s not a coincidence that Snowden chose Hong Kong as the place for his revelation. That’s a payment to China. His revelation largely releases the pressure on China.

    3. It is a payment to Chinese secret police for their collaboration in Boston bombing. In which they confirmed one of the death was a Chinese student. They also joined a carjacking set up to trap Tsarnaev brothers. (mysterious Danny). Also for a big operation to create a bird flu which estimated 6.5 billion in cost. (see “774. China and bird flu (6/5/2013)”)

    4. No information important has Snowden leaked to public because his job is just to release the “cyber spying” pressure from China. What he said is to prove US does same thing that China does. Government spying on people and foreign countries. That’s common sense. Americans know echelon, Patriot Act since 911. Civil rights has been damaged already. So what for Prism.

    5. News said Snowden is helped by Wikeleaks in his travel plan and finance. It proves true what I alleged two years ago that Assange was a false flag. The master played behind them is the same organization. (see “655. Bin Laden and Julian Assange, False flag and living plant (12/7/2010)”)


    779. Big events in 2013 is a big plot (7/10/2013)

    Since this February the Feds activated a series of big operations at the purpose to distract public attention from a small operation – eliminating Kat Sung. It sounds odd for some people, but has been proved true by decade long history. If you have read whole of my story, you may have got familiar with these tactics already.

    1. Attempted war on Iran. (1) On 2/15, a “meteorite” exploded in Russia. It was an intimidation to Russia with a high tech. weapon which imitated meteor explosion. Russia is Iran’s ally. (2) In same month, former Pope Benedict resigned under pressure. The Feds replaced him with a puppet of their own. As a Pope, Benedict would oppose war on Iran if it happenes. (see #759)

    2. Bio attack – Bird Flu epidemic. Which was carried out by Chinese secret police and started from 4/1. (see “774. China and bird flu (6/5/2013)”)

    3. A nuclear war panic created by N. Korea. N. Korea has been bribed to do this for three times. Each time it related to elimination plot.
    (1) First nuclear test- 10/9/2006. (see “440. October surprise (10/5/06)” to #445)
    (2) 5/25/2009, Second nuke test. (See “614. Secret deal with N.Korea (11/22/09)”)
    (3)2/12/2013, third nuclear test. (see “765. How to justify a nuclear attack? (4/1/2013)”). The purpose is to frame Iran to “nuclear proliferation with N. Korea.

    4. Domestic terror attack which at last will justify the war on Iran. The “terror attack” will be a “dirty bomb attack” or “nuclear bomb attack”. The likely target will be New York City. You saw this attempt in (1) In March, Osama bin Laden's son-in-law, who acted as a spokesman for al-Qaida, has been apprehended, transported to New York. The trial on him will justify an “Al Qaida revenge attack” in New York. (2) Tsanaev brothers of Boston bombing indicated such attempt. They were accused of

    “April 25, 2013

    Tsarnaev Brothers Planned Times Square Attack After Boston Bombing

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/north_america/jan-june13/boston_04-25.html “

    Korea Peninsula war crisis, domestic nuclear terror attack, epidemic, war on Iran, each single event could develop to a big disaster, let alone all four add together. That’s because FBI Chief Robert Mueller will step down in this September. The punishment for FBI murdering is just resignation. So they took the advantage and chance to plan such big events.
     
  3. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    I don't think Edward Snowden is guilty of treason.
     

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