Egypt official: Israel will be wiped out in a decade

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  1. Gilos

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    Egypt official: Israel will be wiped out in a decade
    'There will be no such thing as Israel,' Muslim Brotherhood's Essam al-Aryan says after creating uproar by calling on Jews to return to Egypt 'to make room for Palestinians'
    Roi Kais
    Published: 01.01.13, 11:02 / Israel News



    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4327092,00.html

    That's nice, Egyptians worry over Jews future and invite them back to Egypt, :)

    BTW, I asked my fellow worker on the desk besides me, her parents came from Egypt thou she was born here (age 63), she said she'll start packing right away.
     
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    So he did not say that Israel will be wiped out. Another post mirroring Ahmadinejad supposed comment about wiping out Israel.
    thread closed...........
     
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    Given the state and the direction of the Egyptian economy they will probably be eating each other in a decade. What do they need Israeli Jews for, for food? LOL

    Anyway, their economy which was not strong in the first place is collapsing, they are governed by medieval fundamentalists, their women and religious minorities are more oppressed than they've ever been, their new government is usurping more and more power, their Syrian brethren are mass-murdering each other... and they are still obsessed with Israel. I suppose there is no cure for this :(
     
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    What a shame Gilos feel the need to post thing sort of thing, I know youre better than that.
     
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    I dont know, "No more Israel" sounds pretty terminate to me, how do you think I need to undferstand that as an Israeli citizen?
     
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    Did he not say it or did I misunderstood?

    Im not here to point a finger and scream death to Arabs but Im not an idiot either, I think these sort of statements are very relevant to the my understanding of my sourroundings, I find it amazing that ppl actually belive such things.
     
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    Are you suggesting there is going to be a two state solution instead?
     
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    At some point yes, I think there will be.
     
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    I think that is looking implausible particularly with the recent settlement announcements. World opinion has reached a point where it wants human rights, dignity and self determination for the Palestinian people. I don't think Israel can keep going the way she is and remain a predominantly Jewish State. I believe she will suffer sanctions and World opinion will demand all of the people get citizenship and equal rights and I think the current policy of Israel, more settlements and holding on to Palestinian money so that they suffer, is likely to bring that situation about sooner. Although it seems she doesn't yet know it, I believe the power dynamics have changed, favoring the Palestinians. No one is going to physically attack Israel. That will not happen but worldwide sanctions could produce the situation Egypt speaks of far quicker than Israel imagines. Israel's only hope of remaining as a Jewish State, imo is if she gives a viable contiguous State to the Palestinians very quickly. Time, I believe has run out.
     
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    Shame on you creating an anti Muslim hate thread. News like that is supposed to be ignored, its only one man's opinion after all. ;-)
     
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    It being the season of goodwill- maybe he just wanted to post a good news thread. :mrgreen:
     
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    It may be that Hamas and PLO will join in an effort to create a real country, if the world sees that it may also come to the point of threats on sanctions in order to make Israel take the first step, that's the good alternative.

    The bad alternative and I think the more likly to happen is for Hamas with its back covered by MB and Iran to continue with their unrealistic demands for ending a Jewish state with Millions of Muslims to enter the state of Israel, that may result in some countries that have more intersts in Arabs than in Israel to continue demanding Israel backs off from the WB expecting it to take the risks involved (withdraw and then worry about peace) and some will support Israel, if that happens I will not support such a peace, even thou the land can (and does) host 2 nations I see no reason to withdraw to an enemy and continue the blood feud on worse terms to Israel, sorry but we have the upper hand now and giving that up should be on good terms to Israel as well
     
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    Didn't the UN just establish a Palestinian state alongside the state of Israel? Isn't that a de-jure two state solution? LOL

    Ironically Egypt voted for the resolution to establish a Palestinian state, it's only been a few weeks and Egypt is now talking about the next step - getting rid of Israel. Why am I not surprised? The elimination of Israel (not peace, not a two-state solution) was the arab/muslim world's and their leftist supporters' real goal all along.
     
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    3 years ago Abu Sina gave Israel 10 years, are you asking for an extension or is this count starts over every while or so?
     
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    It's Zionism that's going down the Swanny.
     
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    In order to be successful, the Palestinians, and any Arab friends, need world opinion, and I would say, to act in a subtle way. That I think is why this statement drew criticism.

    I just don't see any way that a viable contiguous state is possible any longer and as far as I have read, neither do the Palestinians. All they really need to do is keep up reuniting. Even Abbas giving Israel back authority over the Palestinians is quietly creating the conditions for a one State solution. I honestly believe Israel has left it too long and at the moment could hardly be in a less able position to create a two state solution - having moved so far to the right and with the reality that the supposed Palestinian State is full of settlers.

    I don't believe Israel is in any physical danger. She is the strongest military in the region and I very much doubt anyone would want to attack her...and I think the world knows that now, so she has lost that argument.
     
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    How will you measure that? there is no "Zionist" party after all, no "Zionist" leader, what will be your indication that "Zionism" has passed from this world?
     
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    Its a new world, I think terror in the 20th centuray proved there is a much more efficient way to wage war with western democracies, the height of it being 9/11, why spend billions on Tanks when a group of men with much less costs can be just as effective.

    No, I dont think Israel is at existance risk but that's not our main concern, what Israel would expect is for the Palestinians to fight terror themselves, 100% coverage against terror is never possible and lets face it, the hate will continue for decades more but it should start with a declration of good will and an infrastructure against terror. I know PLO has made efforts against it, Hamas need to do that too.
     
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    I doubt there will be any solution.. They will just continue building Jewish only housing in the occupied territories.
     
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    9/11 was a criminal act which could, and imo should have been dealt with through the criminal system. The US had the goodwill of the world for a while and it was a small window of opportunity to work together to change things. Instead it has cost thousands of lives.

    Problem is the world now has it's attention on the need for the Palestinians to have human rights and self determination. You are really talking about a chicken and egg situation. Hamas for instance has said for years she will be content with the 67 green line. Israel is certainly not without blame.

    I believe it is so. You have your choice. Very quickly find that contiguous state or a one state solution will be imposed. Lots of people will leave Israel. Maybe in the end it will be as Egypt says, the Palestinians will get their homeland back .. but it is changing. Israel has had all the power, that is changing. I definitely believe it is what is happening and that all the weapons in the world won't stop it. I am not saying this is the ideal solution, some genuine two state solution decades ago might have worked. It has always been the Palestinians who are supposed to give, to prove they are up to it and so on, although they had no genuine power or autonomy. That has gone on so long the world, as seen by the UN, appears to just be saying, ''enough, they are human beings, treat them as such.'
     
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    Several possibilities:
    Some country will bomb the merry hell out of Israel
    The US murder money to Israel will stop when the yanks discover you guys did 9/11
    The Israeli economy will collapse and you'll have to sell the land for a song to the rightful owners
    The whole county will fall into the sea under the weight of Netanyahu's bullpoo.
     
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    Each mainstream Israeli party follows the Zionist doctrine to a greater or lesser extent so yes, there are ' Zionist ' parties.
    You'll see the decline and fall of the filthy doctrine as those parties shrink and disappear.
     
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    The point of the US at the time wasnt to bring the guilty part to justice, it was the only answer it thought might fight future terror acts, everyone can strike a blow against a fellow man thou we dont in fear of persecution in criminal law, with terrorists that are willing to pay personal price for their actions (sacrefice) that option is not effective, still a country cant just serve as a big target, it followed the awful path it had to make every terrorist fear such an attack against the US again, not only you will suffer but everything you fight for as well. horrible as the the attack inflicted on the US perhaps but it worked.



    I never heard Hamas speaks about peace, they offred a cease fire for retreat that;s all, and that's my point I was trying to make, it sounds good to you all the way to Scotland, from your view that's enough, for us we want something more tangible - and lets not forget we are talking mainly about words and declarations hardly something that they are not able to give.

    The reason you hear about what Palestinians need to do instead of Israelis need to do is because all Israel has to do is withdraw, that's it. its it only card. the Plaestinians however are divided as we speak, they have several options in their own eyes to get the carrot.

    I think Hamas is in a good diplomatic point at the moment but not in the way you think, the support it gets from Europe is limited and so is thge criticsm on Israel, it will reach a point where the Euro will demand a statement from Hamas that it will not give because they have the victim card at their hands, they can always use it no matter what choices they make. you seem to think that will end the Jewish state, I disagree, I think we will see PLO land and Hamas land before that.
     
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    You mean a decline in the right wing support? I wish, thats sadly not the situation and you are really only make things worse.
     
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    Thx, but I prefer a sane answer, ill wait a bit more.
     

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