Egyptian army slaughters protestors

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  1. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    Egypt isn't the same as Syria though is it Syrian Girl?

    As yet there is no insurgence in Egypt and Egyptians do still have a chance to work together for the revolution ........if they choose too.
     
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    More of the 80 foreigners who were arrested fighting army with the Ikhwan today

    what country they from???

    Why suddenly Reuters cut live feed as soon as foreigners were mentioned among Ikhwan ???????????

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    Abu, where are the workers, unions and protesters from Tahrir Square? What are they saying ?
     
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    Egypt is not Syria yet. That depends if some of the conscripts In Egyptian Army start defecting because many are from rural pro-MB areas. I don't think it will be quiet as bad because Egypt is mostly Sunni and I doubt somebody from outside will attempt to bribe the Egyptian Generals. I could see the conscripts defecting though.

    Saudi's seem to support the Military for their own twisted reasons. It is very confusing. But Egypt has a better chance because the West doesn't benefit from seeing Egypt destroyed, which was the primary goal in Syria. In Syria the outsiders played the sectarian angle with the military, to encourage them to defect.

    Anyway I do not think there was any revolution. It was a uprising by the religious segment of the population and MB won the elections. Secularists and moderates and Christians have nothing in common with MB and should refuse to work with them. You see what MB is doing, destroying government buildings, burning down 38 churches. It is crazy. No compromise with them.
     
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    Nice try:

    "Clerics at the rally urged Morsi to back their calls for jihad to support rebels. Morsi did not address their calls and did not mention jihad."

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/morsi-seen-to-endorse-holy-war-on-syria/
     
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    Kuwaiti Sheikh Sabah promises to rebuild every Church and Mosque torched by Ikhwan terrorists

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    My people ! The Egyptians :hug:

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    Fascist bastard. Sorry, it had to be said.
     
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    Are you trying to pretend you don't get it?

    If Mitt Romney went to a KKK Rally that called for violence against Blacks, but did not "actually" support their message with his own words, would Americans say oh ok, "he didn't say he wants violence against blacks" No! People would ask what the hell was he doing at the KKK rally!

    "Morsi attended a rally at Cairo stadium where he and hardline clerics who have called for jihad spoke in front of a cheering crowd of Islamists waving the flags of the Syrian opposition. There he announced Egypt was to cut all ties with Damascus. The clerics asked for Morsi’s support for jihad to support the rebels, but Morsi did not state his support, but his appearance alone was seen as backing the message of the clerics."


    Here is what Egyptian Experts say.

    Clerics at the rally urged Morsi to back their calls for jihad to support rebels. Morsi did not address their calls and did not mention jihad. But his appearance was seen as in implicit backing of the clerics’ message. It came after a senior presidential aide last week said that while Egypt was not encouraging citizens to travel to Syria to help rebels, they were free to do so and the state would take no action against them.

    Khalil el-Anani, an Egyptian expert on Islamist groups, called the move “Morsi’s endorsement of jihad 1in Syria” and warned it was “a strategic mistake that will create a new Afghanistan in the Middle East.”
     
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    Ok, kind of guilty by association. It wouldn't stand a chance in democratic court of law. But then again, you ain't no democrat. What YOU don't "get" is that despite their many faults, the MB are a relatively moderate force, no more radical than the government of Erdogan. Morsi was an incompetent fool, but nevertheless an incompetent fool who, as a result of the kind of reconciliation and compromise you detest, would not have taken Egypt to the abyss and the level of the gutter where it presently resides. Sometimes in politics you have to take the pragmatic course in view of the likely disastrous alternatives. Is Egypt in a worse place now then it was 6 months ago? The answer is a resounding Yes. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.
     
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    "They shot at us as we tried to storm the police station"

    Al Jazeera interview with an Ikhwani

    :blankstare:
     
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    Morsis weakness and foolishness has bought this about. He did not take the peoples revolution forward when he was the only one who could have done because of his utter stupidity the Powers that have always Been were not weakened and now we see .......................They were given an opening and bam!

    The revolution is not lost but it is very nearly ................. There was no need for blood shed, this is happening through Morsis weakness


    Democracy in Egypts' case was a hypocrisy
     
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    HAHAHA LOL

    Just like Syria. "Syrian Army shoot at us, we don't do anything wrong, all we had was AK-47 and Black Al-Qaeda Flags"

    :wall:
     
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    Foolishness in no way can justify the coup that ensued. But I take on board the general thrust of your post which is essentially correct, imo.
     
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    The Military has been the ruling power for over 60 years, so I can't really call it a coup, myself.

    Foolishness and weakness in such position of responsibility is unforgivable really except that .....offer a weak man the Kings crown and of course he will take it.

    So so unutterably sad


    But through the relationship that the people have with their Military we may yet be surprised by Egypt.
     
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    The Blood of Egypt is on Obama.​

    It was wrong, wrong, wrong to Greenlight a coup.
    Unforeseen events when dealing with a revolution in a Muslim nation. C'mon.
    Forty years from now, Egyptians will really really hate America and Americans will not know why.
    Just as Latin America hated the United States in the fifties for crimes decades before.
    Likewise Iran in the seventies, and Americans didn't remember then or now.

    Stupid is as Stupid does.
    Obama "did" stupid. :steamed:


    Moi :oldman:
    Voted for Obama in '08.
    And he lied to me.
     
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    Is Egypt better off now than it was in 2010 under Mubarak? No
    Was Egypt better off in early 2013 under Morsy than it had been under Mubarak? No

    Government of Erdogan is a disgusting collection of Islamists who want to take Turkey back into days of Ottoman Empire. So that is not a good enough way of measuring an Egyptian government by. MB are not moderate. You have never spoken to an actual MB member. Moment they dont get something they think they entitled to, they begin to destroy things, which we see on tv today.

    I am not taking pragmatic views or compromise with any MB party or any religious party. They must be banned and eliminated. Religious matters are privates and dont need brought into politics or elections. They all deserve the same fate as their beloved black flag waving jihadis in Aleppo. I pray for their total destruction.

    Listen to Hafez Al Assad speech on the Muslim Brotherhood. Every word of his is pure magic.

    [video=youtube_share;8SUfMwFvwOM]http://youtu.be/8SUfMwFvwOM[/video]

    Simply words of absolute truth .Only if Hafez came back and saw what our beloved Syria turned into.

    No compromise with MB ever. Secular Syria or Death. No other choice.
     
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    My solidarity is with you and the Syrian people in your fight against the Saudi-backed mercenaries and Salafist thugs who are fighting your people in your country, ultimately in the interests of US imperialism. I sincerely wish you and the Syrian people all the best in your struggle. I think it's best we leave it there because I support you more than I disagree with you.
     
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    It is strange isn't it that those who condemn the deeds of 'Islamists' are now angry with you for condemning them too.

    Is it because they do not have to live in fear of them taking over their Lands? And that they are not fond of Armies ................ Nor am I and I do see the dangers in Egypt of the Military taking her back to a Mubarak life style but ................. As the Iraqis said ''Saddam was a Bastard but Americans are Pigs''. Not much choice and a terrible dent in Egypts call for change but ....................
     
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    The ' foreigner ' appears to have a far better grasp of events than that betrayed by undemocratic Egyptian military sycophants.

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    Ah, you mean those who haven't been murdered already.

     
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    I am saying you are repeatedly posting off topic posts. The topic is not Egypt. The topic is the army slaughtering of civilians. Posting off topic is against the rules. As is your personal attack. The topic I repeat is on the Egyptian army slaughtering civilians. Either stick to the rules or do not be surprised if you are reported.
     
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    I watched the BBC 6 o/clock news last night on catch up and though I am not saying, I'll say that again, I am NOT saying that there is no Military brutality going on in Egypt I do have to ask, every single time, why do they have to use crisis actors in every single crisis ?

    And so obviously, one can tell the difference between what is real and what is not, why mix them up telling us all is real ?
     
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    The Syrian opposition Coalition moves it's head office from Cairo to Turkey as Egyptians wake to realisation that Assad IS fighting terrorists in Syria.
     
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    amazing arrogance yet again from the foreigner outside Egypt telling the Egyptian living INSIDE it what to post or not on a thread called "Egyptian Army slaughters protestors" !

    truly amazing!
     
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    to be fair you will not get any kind of a balanced view of what is going on if you are not living here at all.

    You will not get it from BBC Fox or Al Jazeera etc

    The only accurate view you will get is to live in it and have friends and relatives affected by it and witness it. To have a knowledge of the culture of the region and language used. To know the people and not to assume they think like Westerners. To know something about Islam and Coptic Christians. We have too many Wikipedia experts here!

    Anything else is armchair experts depending on what their media want to show them.

    I am Egyptian LIVING IN EGYPT and I have them protesting and terrorising minutes from me so I think that I would be the better judge of what is actually happening not some foreign expert thousand miles away sitting watching TV BUT even though you have only that to judge you seem to have a better grip on what is going on than others here that's for sure. You know those schizophrenic that support the terrorists in Egypt and condemn them in Syria. I am condemning both and that is my right as an Egyptian LIVING in it!
     
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