Egyptian army slaughters protestors

Maybe they've run out of American bullets.

 

Nope, apparently not;

Lesson; After your anti-democracy coup, hand some flags out.

 

Despite the savagery of the army and its pro-Mubarak supporters the supporters of a democratic Egypt still occupy the capital's traditional places of protest.

Now , instead of a democratic Egypt politely refusing any further bribe-monies from the US of AIPAC , Washington is debating whether to provide these murdering military bastards with F-16s. I assume that it will continue to hand over billions of dollars annually .

 

Face up to it......anybody who does not condemn it is a part of the brutal junta or its support machinery. Egyptians are disgraced today.

 

Who as predicted after achieving power through the democratic process granted himself expansive dictatorial powers.

And let's not forget that Obama fully endorsed Morsi's presidency, let's not forget that it was Morsi who brought about his own ouster as the Egyptian people themselves rejected his overt power grabs because they did not wish to replace a secular dictatorship with a theocratic dictatorship.

Let's not forget that the overwhelming majority of civilian casualties are the victims of the insurgents and Islamist terrorists, the latter continue to slaughter Iraqi civilians to this day after US withdrawal.

 

I'm invoking the new rule requiring you to provide evidence for the US funding these people in Egypt. A) This is not Syria, B) The FSA are the only ones being supported by the US and they are not Wahhabist/Salafists.

 

I fully support brutal military dictatorships in muslim countries to keep the long beards in check. As long as they are very friendly to the US and buy our military equipment to keep in power, I have no problem with them. Its when they get all uppity like Saddam did that we have to do something about them.

Assad doesn't like us, so pizz on him.

 

Tell the forum what they were.

 

No ? You said " granted himself expansive dictatorial powers. " What were they ?


Meanwhile;

 

Egyptian (Usa) army slaughters protestors .

 

Thanks for the laugh.

 

Moon, if we back up and remember what the young people who were the peaceful revolution asked for when Mubarak went, it was time that they asked for, time to put together a serious and thoughtful consitution and they asked that the Army hold the fort for a year.and there were some very serious and respected Islamic Scholars asking that the Cairo Mosque/University be freed from 'influence' of Government.

We cannot understand how the Army and the people of Egypt are entwined but they are, the Army is not against the people as I understand it.

What did we see a day or two after Mubarak was gone? Before the dust was even settled there was Cameron, the Arms dealer with all his 'salesmen of death' in tow, in Egypt on a Trade Mission and a couple of days later Mrs ghoul- Clinton herself ...she talked to the Army and she talked to the Brotherhood, who until that moment had said they did not want political power, did she talk to any Revolutionaries? Nope!

And a little later ................... there was to be an election and it would be between The Brotherhood and a Mubarak person.

And what part of the Brotherhood won the forgone election? Why was it not the moderates I wonder? And then the non secular constitution !!!!!!!! and the fight the good fight against the secular in Syria.

The Army is right, it is just so sad that they did not hold the fort for a year after Mubarak but better late than never ................... I do have hope for Egypt, the home of the spark of that which is called democracy.

 

Military coups are for political throwbacks and their regiments of brutes. Egypt had a democracy. It was fledgling. The army, in the pay of the US of AIPAC via annual handouts, destroyed that democracy and is murdering civilian protestors in the streets. Don't tell me that " the army is right " .

 

Protest camp: Rabaa al-Adawiya

A square near Cairo's Rabaa al-Adawiya mosque has become a protest camp for supporters of ousted Islamist President Mohammed Morsi, who was removed from office by the military on 3 July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23356389

 

The people threw out The Brotherhood because it was not behaving in a 'democratic' manner. Though it had been secular in name before, the Gov had the say so of who would be the powerful Clerics but still, it was, in writing, secular. The Brothers were changing the constitution into the non secular they were going in the opposite direction and they were calling for men to fight against the secular Gov in Syria, The Army went with the will of the people .....what is not democratic about that? The Army is always in charge in Egypt .......................

Oh and Moon I cannot count on one hand legit democracies in the World, it is a fallacy anyhow. Mob rule Plato called it, as it is now it has no meaning what so ever, that fact is just more open and honest in Egypt. The same unseen people are in Power everywhere but they give us idiots the illusion of choice.

I don't think you understand the relationship in Egypt between the people and the Army. Nor can I say that I do but I am aware it is not so simple that we can simply say that this is a coup.

 

' The people ' are in the streets protesting the coup and demanding their democracy back. It was theirs. They are currently being murdered by a junta. Your attempt to paint their actions as ....er.....reasonable.... are absurd. Your attempt to deny that it was a coup are absurd. Yes, most ' democracies ' are also absurd BUT as soon as you let go of the principles and ideals you are DONE, brother. Call a coup a coup.

 

I am not painting anything as being 'reasonable' I am , as are you, sitting on Mt Olympus and able if, I look, to see the whole story. That is all.

Egypt was asked by the USA to go from having been ruled by unfair Pharaohs and radical Clerics, for very many moons, to voting for a Pharaoh or a radical Cleric. Sister Moon darling there was the mistake that was not a move toward democracy, what unimaginative cowards the owners of the Insidious Empire are to give back as choice exactly those whom the people have ousted, only splced down the middle. It would be like telling us we could have a vote between The Arch Bish' of. ???? and the head of MI5 for Gods sake.

The Army has obviously not wished the bother of ruling Egypt, it always could have done, why did the USA always pay 'Aid' seperately to the Military and or Government? So I doubt it wants to now.

Those who began this blood shed are the radicals within the Brotherhood not the Military, the Brothers were no better than Mubarak and from what I have heard even used Mubaraks' thugs against the Copts and others.




God knows where this will go, poor poor Egypt, for surely our lot of traders in death will send in their pet terrorists, Abu I fear is right they should all close their borders tight.

 

Accounts wanted the wages bills separately.

I'm not going to bother addressing your speculations. Diana wants a shag and Apollo has got Hermes in a headlock.

 

You are not going to bother because you are sitting on your high horse and do not wish to see things other than black and white. goodies against baddies and you have picked your horse, it isn't even a race


No pet, not because accounts wanted the wages bill separately. The Army was always in charge, it could say who held the Political powers and could oust them whenever it wished. So the US paid the Politicos separately.

The Military is entwined in every single facet of Egyptian life. .

 

The puppet government has been installed by the military. Who now prosecutes the killers of Egyptian civilians demonstrating for the return of democracy ?

It stands to reason that the law in Egypt today is manipulated by those who obey no laws but their own. They're charging the president with espionage.

 

Enough of the condescending ' endearments ' . First warning.

 

Exactly. When you called me by my last name in the same way I had your post deleted. Good for you Moon, don't allow it!

 

Yeah..........not really feeling any sympathy for them. The only good Muslim Brotherhood supporter is a dead Muslim Brotherhood supporter. Frankly this is one of those times I wish the army had been a bit more thorough.

 

Well the military has certainly put out the word that the MB is not a viable political entity.

 

I was not being condesending, we are usually on the same side in arguments on here, this time I am simply saying you have not done your research and keep your warnings Sister Moon I have, by your calling me a poofter, of all things?, realized that you are not who I thought you were and had decided to back off anyway for who am I to upset another who seams to take disagreements personally and has a very low boiling point.


I don't do personal attacks and never have but over the years in forum cafe society I have learned not to take things personally and to be able to form an argument by doing my research, whether I bother to use the argument or not.

I think most of us learn more then we teach in these 'cafes' often through our mistakes and or ignorances we go rushing to google, for there is no shame in either nor in changing ones mind but that is so much harder if we are sitting on a high horse in the first place..