Electoral College petition has almost 1 million votes

Sign all you want. Fact of the matter is if your DNC didn't cheat Bernie Sanders he probably would have won. But you were scared to run the socialist , so instead you went with the worst candidate in history. You will probably falsely say that is not so , Donald Trump is the worst candidate in history. Well explain president Trump?

 

Probably? Bernie would have killed Trump in the swing states. Liberals love him, people cried for a candidate after a primary? But something our left won't accept is they are a puppet party. Clinton was a prop up of 8 years of establishment and that ugly old man Soros. Bernie was a liberal Trump basically, anti establishment. And they stole it from him the nomination.

So seriously throw off your billionaire overlord Dems and take control of your party

 

Your state must use the winner take all approach rather than the proportional approach used by NE and ME.

I wrote my State Legislators and asked them to change my State too.

 

The electoral college electors will vote in accordance with the voters decisions of each state. My state decided and the people of Georgia voted for Trump. Trump's slate of electors will also vote for Trump on 19 Dec as is the will of the people of Georgia. The same holds true for the will of the people of New York, they will cast their electoral votes for Clinton. It is the will of the people being done, at the state level as each state held their election and voted for a particular slate of electors for their own state.

Now Maine and Nebraska award their electoral votes via congressional districts. one for each congressional district won and two for whomever wins the state. Any state which is up to the states per the constitution can also go that route if they wished. Pennsylvania had thought about doing exactly that a couple of years ago, but decided against it.

They figured their state would have more political power to continue awarding its electoral votes enmass, all 20 for the winner of their state. By awarding one electoral vote to whomever won a congressional district would dilute the power of the state of Pennsylvania in deciding whom would be elected president.

Any state legislature could change their state's way of awarding its electoral votes to congressional districts if it wanted. But most states think doing so would dilute their power. Having 20 electoral votes, Pennsylvania gets visited by the presidential candidates quite a bit. But if Pennsylvania awarded an electoral vote per CD and 2 for whomever took the state, Pennsylvania fears no presidential candidate would visit that state anymore as 2 electoral votes for winning the state wouldn't be worth it and no candidate is going to visit all 18 of Pennsylvania's CD's for one vote per CD. They would move on to other states where a visit would be worth much more electoral votes.

You don't see presidential candidates visiting Maine and Nebraska, the same would hold true for any other state who divided up their electoral votes per congressional district.

 

The Electors from Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, might not be soo eager to vote for Trump.

 

By 0.2 percent Trump is still ahead of the popular vote,
I think that is still okay with EC results.

 

I'd like to see a Constitutional Amendment that requires districts to be equally drawn by eligible voter, with the map that requires the least lines (simplest map that equally divides the eligible voter population).

Alabama now

vs this method


http://rangevoting.org/SplitLR.html

 

That's actually a very nifty idea. It makes each states votes more fair towards the whole. Protecting the diversity of our republic

 

And that's just Virginia. Who knows what kind of shenanigans were going on in other states. I bet that if we subtracted all the bogus votes, Trump would have easily won the popular vote as well.

 

Nice new sig. You've lost all credibility. Not that you care right? It's the interwebz

 

Witness, "The Map" demonstrates areas of concentrated Blue Majorities.
The Greatest State of California is the saddest example. But, spread out county by county, California does have Red Counties. California's Winner Take All system would deny Trump, as it did Romney, their fair share of representation.

Yes we need the Electoral College to remind "us" geography counts too.
Yes we need States such as California to consider, a more proportional assignment of Electors, maybe by county but that would further dilute the influence of the concentrated Bay Area vote.


The Electoral College is a protection. Currently from voters concentrated in highly urban areas.


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When will that be done the count? Maybe that will shut them up?

 

If enough electors get the message that they will be added to the "mysterious but convenient death" Clinton list Hillary might just pull it off. What's another 40 or so murders?

 

With the exception of PA, if the electors from any of those states dont vote for Trump they are breaking the law. I will let you figure out why. Even then, theres a good chance their faithless vote is rendered meaningless by their state Sec. of State.

 

Back in 2012 he thought Obama had lost the popular vote and won the electoral vote. He said that was an affront to democracy and called for revolution.

 

Finally, a conservative agrees with me on something that seems simple common sense. Thank you.

I'm not totally against the Electoral College, I think it has saved us from becoming a Parliamentary system like they have in Europe, but what is happening now should be a lot rarer than it seems to be becoming

And the other thing I find problematic here is all this business of "the people have decided" we're going to hear when Trump starts all the really radical (*)(*)(*)(*) he's going to push. Yes, the people did decide, they decided AGAINST it. "Our system" or not, that is the real fact of the matter. A majority of the voting populace voted AGAINST Trump and his radical bull(*)(*)(*)(*). As an example, according to this last election, the majority of the voting populace do NOT want ACA repealed and doing so is a clear violation of the public will and trust, but it's probably going to happen anyway.

Now if Trump and his Congress were to actually recognize this fact, and go slow on their promises here I might just begin to wonder if they aren't out to kill us all, but rotsa ruck on that, I'm thinking

 

I think they will not,
the same with the GOP side if ever Hillary did win.
For passing laws or bringing forth issues concerning the country it's by far better also to have an opposing side,
for a deep scrutinize making it beneficial for the entirety.

 

Uh...why do we need "protection" from voters in urban areas?

I mean, the people in cities are qualified voters too, yes? They aren't ALL gang members and welfare recipients, I'm thinking, just like all rural inhabitants don't live in trailers with arsenals (and collect welfare too)

Strikes me we need protection from voters in RURAL areas, they're the ones who are getting to have their votes count more

(btw, it seems your signature has gotten into the posting area somehow, I took it out here, if you wanted it in I apologize )

 

Yeh, right,

"Hey, teacher, I know you don't like me and although I have no evidence I'm sure you took off points unjustified, so I'm upping my grade from C to A, and now I can get into med school even though I DON'T know what a zygote is"

 

The question I have to ask is, if the shoe was on the other foot, meaning if Clinton won the electoral vote, but lost the popular vote, would you still be complaining about the system?

 

I'm simply astonished how many Americans are completely ignorant when it comes to their own political system. Do you really need a foreigner to enlighten you? The USA is a federal republic. Not a Democracy. Mr Shedlock broke it down perfectly, even not so bright people on the left will eventually understand that Trump's actually represents the vast majority of the country.

Not Getting It: Michael Moore, Hollande, Merkel, Financial Times, Stephen Colbert

https://mishtalk.com/2016/11/10/not-getting-it/

Moore live in a Fantasyland where Hollywood, New York, and California socialists and unions are in control.

For all the talk of a popular vote win for Hillary, check out two key states. Hillary beat Trump by a margin of 5,491,633 to 2,970,914 in California. That is net margin of 2,520,719.

She beat Trump in New York by a margin of 4,143,874 of 2,640,570. That is net margin of 1,503,304.

I look at things this way: Trump’s Geographic Landslide.

In the real world, we have a Republic, not a Democracy, designed by our constitutional founders on purpose, so that a few large population states do not dictate the rules for the entire nation...

 

Petitioning to change the Electoral is nothing more than the left keeping their people engaged, and allowing them to think they are fighting against those on the Right.

As they know if they don't, they will walk away from their political ideology.

Those that started it.....already know its a waste of time, in the sense that it wont change up this elections vote.

They also know that can't get a Constitutional Amendment to pass.

 

Maybe, just maybe, if the people that want to change the system actually went to the polls and voted they wouldn't need to change the system. To change a system you do better if you participate in it.

 

I don't know for sure how those states you mentioned select their electors, but I do know how Georgia does since I was one for Ross Perot back in 1996. Before the election each candidate who qualified for the ballot submits their own slate of electors to the Georgia Secretary of State. Trump submits his, Clinton hers, Johnson his. On election day we vote for one of those slates of electors. The thing is since the candidates choose their own electors, you can be sure they choose loyal supporters, none of them would choose a person or place a person on their slate of electors list that they didn't trust fully to vote for them when the electors vote on 19 December.

Georgia went for Trump, so it will be Trump's slate of electors who will cast their votes in the electoral college. Its true in Georgia that none of the electors are bound by the state results, all state results did was choose which slate of electors from the three candidates elector lists on the ballot would be casting the electoral votes for Georgia. Now there are some states where state law mandates the elector cast their vote per the result of that states presidential election. It all depends on state law. If those states you mentioned are the same as Georgia in that they vote for a slate of electors that have been submitted by the candidates themselves, then the chances of even one going rogue and voting for someone else is very low indeed.

After all the people of Ohio, Pennsylvania etc. have spoken. It is the will of the people of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, etc. that they cast their electoral votes for Trump. It is the same for New York, California, etc it is the will of the people of those states that they cast their electoral votes for Hillary Clinton. We have 50 state elections that make up the national event. Not one huge election, but 50 smaller ones.

 

Gotta wonder if you remove the dead voters, duplicate votes and votes by non-citizens, where the popular vote would fall.