Embassy Official Confirms Trump Asked About Ukraine Investigation

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  1. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's just begun.
     
  2. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doubt it...the media I listen to, generally explains the difference. The "bribery" charge is better understood than the Latin phrase Quid Pro Quo...it's an offer to do something for something. A favor for a favor. It becomes illegal when there is a crime involved. In this case, the "crime" was withholding Congressionally approved funding from Ukraine until they did Trump two favors.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was his approval right before impeachment begin?
    69% before and 73% after.
    trump is around 44% so even adding Clinton’s “bump” he is still underwater.
    Seeing that trump’s supporters and opponents haven’t really budged since his election makes even that scenario unlikely though.

    Clinton had something trump will never have — popular support.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't you think it's odd that we frequently see the left wing media use the same catch phrases all at the same time? It's not just this time with the bribery thing, it happens a lot of times.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is fox news also telling their viewers what they want to hear?
    “Big dumb baby”
    “Unpresidential”
    “Petty”
    “These aren't fake items. They are real items, and you really said to them, Fake is when it's wrong Mr. President, not when it's unpleasant.”
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The republicans do the exact same thing, it’s called messaging.
     
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    *LOL*

    How ironic.
     
  8. Kal'Stang

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    Oh look, another 2nd hand information "witness". Too bad all the 1st hand witnesses agree that no pressure happened. No quid pro quo. Nothing.
     
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    I know. I can't wait till it reaches terminal velocity.
     
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    As it does on Fox and Talk Radio. Both sides do it. I see more of it on the right than the left. I'm sure there must be some study on the subject.
     
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    Sondland said he applied the pressure, he speaks next week. Better work in next weeks message, because this one expires
     
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    Do show where he said that. ;)
     
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    I think that you mean media support.
     
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    They found out the republicans didn't know what quid pro quo meant.
     
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    “I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland said in the new statement, which was made public by the House committees leading the inquiry, along with the transcript of his original testimony.

    and your homework is to also read the newly released Morrison testimony
     
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    Wait until the Mueller report comes out, then you really got him. lol
     
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    Oh yes certainly, fake news and all that jazz.
    trump actually won the popular vote by 300 million in 2016
     
  18. ronv

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    The senators are screwed no matter what they do now.
    They can vote against impeachment knowing the evidence shows the President to be guilty.
    This will cost them votes with independents and moderate republicans.
    Or they can vote to impeach and lose the support of the Trumpers.
     
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    How close was the 2000 election? Clinton lied under oath which is an impeachable offense, good luck with your sham impeachment, Trump will get re-elected and choose the next SCOTUS Justice when Ruthie retires.
     
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    It will likely not exonerate him and jail some of his closest advisors.
     
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    Nobody likes hearsay evidence, let alone impeach a President that has grown the economy more in 3 years than Obama and the Democrats did in all 8 of Obumble.
     
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    There is no evidence.
     
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    The extortion did not end at the phone call. So yes Zelenskiy knew about it being delayed.
    There is some question on if Ukraine knew from the July 10th meeting.
     
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    And they keep Kavanagh off the Supreme Court. Just wait till Trump gets to choose Ruthie's replacement. He needs to choose Amy Coney Barrett and just watch the Democrats try to attack her in public.
     
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    Zelinsky already said he didn't know, are you calling him a liar?
     
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