Embryonic stem cells restores some sight

Embryonic stem cells restores some sight

The fruits of Stemcell reaearch are coming together.

If it was for Bush and his religious views, we could have hear this story 8 years ago.

 

OH MY GOD!

STOP KILLING BABIES FOR EUGENICS!

It's wrong to kill a baby so that someone can see!

And that's all science is doing.

SCIENCE IS KILLING BABIES TO GET THOSE STEM CELLS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BE HEALTHIER AND LIVE MORE PRODUCTIVE LIVES!

Eugenics at it utmost worse.

How dare the scientific community kil babies to improve the human condition?

HOW DARE THEY!

 

Yippie. There was no ban on stem cell research under Bush. He just limited FEDERAL funding of embrionic stem cell research to those that were ALREADY being used by the researchers at the time the law was enacted. PRIVATE funding of stem cell research is and was completely UNLIMITED then as it is now. STATES funding of embrionic stem cell research is and was UNLIMITED. Universities and Colleges as well as private researchers were allowed to spend AS MUCH AS THE WANTED on embrionic stem cell research. Michael J. Fox could have spent his ENTIRE FORTUNE on embrionic stem cell research (he didn't). The entire HATE BUSH because of stem cell research is just the biggest political RED HERRING in our lifetimes.

 

Does artificially manufacturing the stem cells or people harvesting their own stem cells instead of relying on embryonic stem cells make this a nonreligious issue? Also, is there a religious issue with collecting stem cells from umbilical cords?

 

One moment please: "the experiment's purpose was to test the safety of stem cells injected into the eye". What does this mean exactly? Are you sure you are not speaking about charlatans or even criminals? Why not to use animals for such a test?

http://youtu.be/_bDW-YQZVLw

 

The majority of the funding comes from the FED. So he essentially but a ban on it.

To say otherwise is like saying you are allowed to drive your car, but you cannot buy gas to run it on.

Get real.

 

rstones, do you volunteer to die and get chopped up to cure me of my health problems?

 

Why would I volunteer? I'm not a stem cell.

Blackrook, is it your hope to get Diabetes, Alzheimer's Disease, Parkinson's disease, ect. Or is it your hope to find a cure?

 

Scientists use Mengele's research on twins because there is a benefit to science. But that doesn't justify the research.

 

Saving lives justifies research.

 

What infuriates me about this subject is the reality of the embryos.

What the religious and the right doesn't seem to grasp is that these aren't children. These embryos are what's left over from fertility treatments. These are unused embryos that never got used, never will be used, and are only going to be destroyed after cold storage periods are up.

So these embryos can either be used to cure disease...or be destroyed.

Which is a better fate? I would think using them to cure disease and find treatments for genetic disease would be a much better fate than simply being destroyed.

 

Again, volunteer to be chopped up for the cure.

 

Again, rather them be used to benefit science then simply destroyed.

Of course that's to much logic for you, right?

 

What you don't seem to understand is that ESC has not cured anything and likely this article is nothing but BS. ESC has caused some pretty terrific/terrifying conditions for the recipient. It should tell you something that these researchers want the gov't to fund them because private investors WILL NOT.

 

Your backing for that? Let's see some of these terrifying conditions.

 

embryos are NOT human beings.

 

You're arguing with morons, dude. Leave it alone

 

Possibly a little off topic, but in the US do you have to provision to be an orgn donor? In Australia, adults have this option whereby upon death certain healthy organs are transplanted into patients who need them.

I'm an organ donor.

 

Yes there is, one has the option of donating organs upon death. Its listed on the back of your drivers license.

We also have the option of having our bodies donated to science.

 

*puts the Fool's cap on*

BUT EMBRYOS DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION!! THEY CAN MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS!

 

I don't have a specific position on this issue, but besides this article, is research into ESCs really worth it? Doesn't seem to have had much progress with the years of research thy've had. Not really sure why it's so rabidly supported.

 

My main fear is that people will try to suspend the human lifespan for longer than it ever should have been. People live short lives and die, and that's how it should be and always should be. The cycle of life should never be suspended just to allow a greedy person more time than they were meant to have on this Earth.

And in case my above paragraph made it sound suspicious, I am a naturalist and atheist.

 

Alright. Personally, I wish we would hold off on the prolongment of human life until we fix our education system. Turns out people have less kids the more educated they are.

 

I don't think we should increase the (average) human life span, but in fact, allow it to decrease. The human life expectancy in the U.S. is artificially high due to spending boo-coos on social security, medicare, medicaid etc.

 

Humans are explorers. In order for us to travel to the stars, our life spans will HAVE to increase, and we will travel to the stars and spread humannity throughout the Milkey Way and perhaps beyond.