Ending Roe will not end abortions!!!

Are you saying that birth control is totally a women's responsibility?? What about men playing their part ??? If a woman is unable to take the pill......... and does not want to get pregnant.........then it is up to the man to do his part.


Interesting how the "dad" is left out of the equation..........when it takes sperm to fertilize an egg to begin with.

If abortion is a crime..........then Both the mother and the dad should be penalized. Sexual behavior is both party's responsibility.......

 

No, of course not.

But she is the only one to blame if she's the one choosing abortion, and she also did not decide to use birth control.

In our society, men get the benefit of the doubt, because we assume that they assume the woman is probably not going to abort his offspring, if she gets pregnant. But maybe that should change...

 

Ok so un factual and bias opinion? K great! Should probably just put that in parenthesis somewhere so we know you are just making stuff up.

 

In a perfect world absolutely the man should be as equally culpable. However nature put the responsibility and burden on the female. That's just how it is. So they are the last gate of responsible decision making...and need to be as such. Because they are the ones left holding the bag so to speak.

 

The "father " of the unwanted pregnancy should be part of the decision making. IF he wants the child...........and she does;not.........then HE can raise it.

If it is rape..........then the woman should have every right to abort.........if that is her decision.

 

Nope........ men ARE just as responsible. Single men do raise children. Society has changed.

Men have gotten away with far too much for far too long...........and that is coming to an end. Thank goodness for paternity tests........ and verification of father hood.......... so these situations have to include them now.

 

That's not what my statement was about. But thanks for playing.

 

True. It would only create a demand for medical tourism. For those supporting big government, more control. vaccine mandates, etc, you are no different.

 

NO. Don't know where you fell off the bus, but you don't understand what you read. It's not a question of someone else "allowing" an individual to make a personal decision about themselves.
They are the only person who has a right to do that in the first place.

 

Hmm, you said " including not authorizing yourself to make decisions for others when you carry none of the consequences of that decision"

Should the woman not authorize herself to make decisions for others, when she is not carrying the consequences of that decision?

 

That depends on how YOU think. If YOU are of the opinion that the embryo or fetus is a viable, independent person who has a say, then you must consider that.

However, if it's NOT you, and that embyro or fetus is in fact dependent of the bodily functions of whomever it is part of and is in fact being constructed by THEIR body and is part of THEM until it is independently viable.... It's just not your call in any way. Your opinion- it totally irrelevant in my way of thinking. Just as mine is in your decisions about yourself.
The woman does carry the consequences- regardless of the decision. it can be a choice of least evil, least damage to the future.

This will always be a point of contention. It is something of great difficultly for most women to decide. They are the one with every thing at stake, including how they will feel about the decision years later.
How about we ALLOW them to make that decision, since nobody else has any skin in the game except their ego and self-righteous, self-granted authority to act as god's personal agent?

You are welcome to what you think is right or wrong- FOR YOU. Unless that affects the rest of us in some fairly direct way- I don't think we have a right to interfere or intimidate at all.

 

I hate to begin taking this off topic but this is just a thought I had:
If the fetus is part of her body, she is part of the fetus's body too.

 

Except the fetus contributes nothing to the function or survival of the mother, while the mother contributes everything like that to the fetus.

When a cell divides, it's making a replica of itself, which can also become something else- stem cell functionality. However until the cell division is complete and the replica separates from the parent, it's a work in progress within one entity. On separation, the biological dependency ends and the replica is independent.

However, regardless of what you believe, even the most basic application of common sense would dictate that you have the right to decide for yourself about such things, but not for others. IF your right to decide for yourself is sacred, so is theirs. Your belief you are right does not negate the rights of others to think you are wrong.

What really needs to take place is the development of a higher plane of thought and values in our society. That will never happen in a society which continually insists on dictating, forcefully imposing their will on other. That has detrimental long-term effects on human mental function that I don't think you are aware of at all. While that higher plane is a long way off, if we don't get ourselves into the right mode of thinking and move in that direction- it will never happen.

 

YUP! So women decide to abort or gestate....glad you agree !

 

Congress will do something?

 

Well thats very judgey..Get off ur high horse, society isnt in any position to dictate a persons medical needs.

Who are you that anyone should care? The girls parent, boyfriend, baby-father? If not its simply none of ur business. What stake do you have?

 

Why then, do you think, SCOTUS is even entertaining the thought of overturning wade? What good will it do?

 

It will reverse an unconstitutional ruling. That's a good thing. It will return power back to the States, where it belongs.

 

Ya it's fairly simple. If you are killing a 15 week old fetus because of "convenience" that is a disgusting act.