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Energy expert Dr. Daniel Fine discusses North Carolina's Shale Gas and "Fracking"

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Bluewill67, Mar 15, 2012.

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  1. a777pilot

    a777pilot Well-Known Member

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    ROFLMAO!

    You remind me of Sheldon.
     
    a777pilot, Mar 18, 2012
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    You're not refuting what I said.
     
    Kranes56, Mar 18, 2012
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  3. danielpalos

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    My only disagreement with petroleum products is that they have been claimed to contribute to global warming.

    In my opinion, we may be better off discovering better energy technologies that may be cleaner and end our dependence on fossil fuels.

    Would we be worse off by discovering how to tap into geothermal reservoirs such as active volcanoes?
     
    danielpalos, Mar 18, 2012
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    I have been calling for years now, a national program to have at the minimum of 1,000 nuclear power plants in the USA. There is no good reason to produce so much as one kilowatt of electricity from carbon based fuels.
     
    a777pilot, Mar 18, 2012
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    We have plenty of carbon based fuels for power generation. We have an abundance of coal and natural gas. Furthermore Nuclear cannot make up the entire generation mix. Nuclear is base load. The swings need to be handled with fast ramping natural gas units.
     
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    Natural gas is a great transitional fuel. I agree. We need a minimum of 1,000 nuclear (Thorium based of course) power plants. Then we can sell all our excess natural gas, oil and coal based products to the rest of the world (I'm sure we could find something to do with all that money) and get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the middle east.
     
    a777pilot, Mar 19, 2012
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    With advances in technologies, we could also be extracting minerals and ores from active volcanoes as well as energy.
     
    danielpalos, Mar 19, 2012
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    I don't see anything in the present or the near future with the ramp rates and on demand power of natural gas units. Natural gas will be a vital part of our energy mix for a long time.
     
    Windigo, Mar 19, 2012
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    Amen to that. We have so much natural gas in this country that wells are capped cause the supply is so much higher then the demand. Plus it's cleaner burning than coal and oil.
     
    Dingo44, Mar 19, 2012
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    Anyone stupid enough to move into an area that is KNOWN to have naturally occurring swamp gas is too stupid to understand the term 'property value'. "Daddy how come we moved into a house that has a swamp in the back yard that sometimes catches fire?".
     
    puffin, Mar 19, 2012
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    I guess ignore the fact that this occured after fracking means nothing to you?
     
    Kranes56, Mar 19, 2012
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    Why hasn't natural gas gained more market share than petroleum products?
     
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    In my opinion, we may be better off promoting fuel cell technologies instead of merely making it easier for the private sector to pollute our environment.
     
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    What type of fuel cells?

    If you are talking about hydrogen fueled, you have a problem. Where does the hydrogen come from to create the fuel cells?

    That's where my energy plan comes in handy. I start with the building of 1,000 nuclear power plants. That will get the hydrogen for ya.

    The transition fuel would be natural gas.
     
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    It may merely depend on the technologies available.

    With advances in technologies, we could be extracting energy from geothermal sources, without the inherent risk of nuclear energy.
     
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    How is that working in Iceland? They use lots of geothermal energy.
     
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    It seems they may end their dependence on fossil fuels before one of the largest economies in the world.

     
    danielpalos, Mar 20, 2012
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    Anybody who claims they will readily drink well water from an area that hydraulic fracking has been occurring is either A..ignorant or B..a liar. It is really cut and dry....if you drill down in the earth and shoot in all kinds of chemicals plus water then chances are....you are going to have contaminated water and soil. I am not sure why this is even debatable...

    For all those people who claim it is safe...can I assume you want to dump these same chemicals and other fluids into your vegetable garden, assuming you have one? Will you then be just happy to feed those vegetables to you and your family? Don't make me laugh....

    The govt agencies in charge of regulating these companies are bought and paid for by these companies. Who do you think elect these officials that sit on these sub-committees? Why is it that the same rules and regulations that apply to drilling for oil are not equally and evenly to the natural gas industry? Hmmmmm.....

    I am a libertarian and believe in limited govt but I will say when it comes to environmental regulations that they are important.
     
    headhawg7, Mar 20, 2012
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    In my opinion, advancing boring technologies could be a boon to many industries.
     
    danielpalos, Mar 21, 2012
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