Environmentalists Call U.S. Workers ‘Collateral Damage’

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  1. longknife

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    This doesn't surprise me one bit. From the very onset of the movement to have Spotted Owls and Darter Fish outweigh the needs of Humanity, their total disparagement of them is clear and undeniable. The loss of jobs, to them, are nothing but numbers. They totally ignore – while sitting in their comfortable, plush offices or living quarters – the pain and agony of those who cannot put food on their family's tables or roofs over their children's heads.

    Read more @ http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/29/environmentalists-call-u-s-workers-collateral-damage/
     
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    Nice political hack job. Here is what he really said

    However, there is nothing explicit in the plan to mitigate or adapt to the economic disruption the clean energy transition will cause for coal- and oil-country families. We know that economic disruptions are part of progress. They are the collateral damage of every evolutionary step in technology or the economy. Everyone from the makers of typewriters to dial telephones has gone through it.


    From the original article

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-s-becker/no-one-left-behind-in-coa_b_5480910.html

    The laugh is the article is a real shot at Obama, and what is being put in place to help people affected by the potential impacts of switching the energy base. So rather than being a bad arse take no prisoner environmentalist. He is clearly concerned for his fellow man.
     
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    The difference is typewriters and dial phone were replaced by market forces, not government mandate. The products that replaced typewriters and phones were better and cheaper.

    We aren't replacing coal with something better, and definitely not cheaper.

    What Obama says has little to do with what he does - that disparity is costing him dearly in the polls.

    Beyond that, Obama thinks the entire cost will be born by those directly connected to coal. The increased cost of energy will effect all of us.

    I particularly like this overused comment in the article "Improvements in energy efficiency will put new money in the pocket of every consumer." We have been improving efficiency for the last 40 years. The cost of energy has increase fast enough to minimize any savings. We have to by more efficient (and more expensive) just to keep energy costs in check.
     
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    The simple truth is that humanity is not more important than the health of the planet. Without a healthy planet there is no humanity. Jobs are meaningless, oil is meaningless, economies are meaningless, all is meaningless if it is unsustainable, and modern civilization is the definition of unsustainable.
     
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    You simple to not understand one simple fact as with the spotted owl they only live in old growth forest, which there really are not that many of. The loggers claimed they needed to cut down those forests so that they could work abd too bad about the owls, but the logic falls on its face because if allowed to cut the old growth forests all down the loggers would still be out of job at the end and we would have exterminated another species in the process. No jobs do not always trump the existance of a species of animal, no matter what the Cons claim. Some would say God put it there for our use but they forget God did not put the animals and planets there so we could destroy them all, we are only caretakers, not owners.
     
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    Sounds like you haven't read some of the important parts of the Bible.

    Genesis 1:28

    The best parts of the Bible are Genesis and Relevations.

    And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

    Less religious nonsense!! More discussion over why the planet has dared to be warmer in the past without coal fired power plants to cause it!! Whazzup with that?
     
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    Please point out where it says use it all up and wipe out the other species? I'll wait for your revelation.
    Stay on topic, we are talking about mankinds actions.
     
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    I don't know too much about the specifics of the spotted owl, but the snail darter was a case of the TVA wanting to build a dam for it's own sake, not for the sake of humanity. Tellico dam doesn't generate electricity, and the whole thing is just a boondoggle. There was no need to create Tellico lake. And to add to that, the snail darter didn't even stop the building of that lake. Thankfully, the population of snail darters that was moved to a different river seem to thrive there. It would have been a true shame to eliminate one of God's creatures for nothing useful.
     

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