Erdogan; Zionism is a " crime against humanity "

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  1. Face. Your

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    Sorry but two seperate studies conducted at nearly the same time which Elhaik was not a party to came to the same conclusions separately which concur that Jews can trace their lineage directly to the ancient Levant, not Khazaria.

    "Abraham's Children in the Genome Era: Major Jewish Diaspora Populations Comprise Distinct Genetic Clusters with Shared Middle Eastern Ancestry," and ""The Genome-wide Structure of the Jewish People."

    1. Atzmon G, Hao L, Pe'er I, Velez C, Pearlman A, Palamara PF, Morrow B, Friedman E, Oddoux C, Burns E, Ostrer H. "Abraham's children in the genome era: major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared Middle Eastern ancestry." American Journal of Human Genetics 2010;86(6):850-859, doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2010.04.015.

    2. Behar DM, Metspalu M, Metspalu E, Rosset S, Parik J, Rootsi S, Chaubey G, Kutuev I, Yudkovsky G, Khusnutdinova EK, Balanovsky O, Semino O, Pereira L, Comas D, Gurwitz D, Bonne-Tamir B, Parfitt T, Hammer MF, Skorecki K, Villems R. "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people." Nature 2010;466:238-242, doi:10.1038/nature09103.


    Now which peer reviewed scientific journal did Doctor Elhaik's article get published in?
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    You have entire pseudo science depts making stuff up.

    The Jews are Eastern European, Russians, Poles, and some Germans. They added some more to the mix, to bulk out their number.

    But they are invaders, pirates, they don't have a real identity.
     
  3. Mandrake

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    They have a real identity. They were "special" in the Roman empire and migrated to far flung places. They were like the English in a way. You can find people of English blood in North America, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, etc. English are like the stars in number and if They declared England their homeland and demanded right of return, the Irish would be like the Palestinians.
     
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    I'm not sure that there is much to learn from the excrement you are sharing here tho.



    [video=youtube;l_VzxIVOKbs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l_VzxIVOKbs[/video]



    This Video is nothing more than hate literature.

    Mark Glenn is a prominent jew hater to the extent he even hates Rense!
    I really enjoy watching these examples of white power national socialist jew hatred since is says so much about the people who believe and promote this kind of hatred.

    the two words that drive them all crazy - NEVER AGAIN!
     
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    Let's get back to the topic. I came across this U.N. criticism of Erdogan in a foreign newspaper:

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    But the statements of Erdogan became the subject of intense criticism and the Organisation for Human Rights UN Watch which proceeded in a tough statement against both himself and the total Turkish politics:

    "The wrong use of this international forum of the Turkish Prime Minister and his statements, essentially hatred and their similarity with the corresponding statements of Iranian President Ahmadinejad to target a lowest common denominator that appeals to the Muslim world only reinforce the belief that The Turkish government continues to be driven by an aggressive stance against Israel and is unwilling to stop the nearly four-year battle with this country. "
     
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    this video and its use here is a classic case of trying to cover all the bases.

    It essentially attempts to debunk any genetic connection of contemporary jews to ancient Israel. This is of course one of the pillars of jew hatred or anti-judaic (not bad jack but I still prefer the directness of jew hatred).

    The jew haters argue on the one hand that jews are a race and use as proof the various genetic diseases found almost eclusively (85 to 98% incidence) within the jewish population (mostly ashkenazi). They crow about their genetic isolationism and use it as proof of genetic seperatism. They even accuse some jews of having a "Mental illness" gene.

    then there are others who insist that contemporary jews are all descendant from khazars. The application of simple logic and a thimblefull of mental capacity renders this claim as absurd as those making it. That is not to say that khazarian jews (converts) had no contribution to make to the euro-jew genome.

    Since the track record for "judaic pseudo science " with all its nobel prizes, discoveries and inventions is a tab more impressive than the "jewhater pseudo science" which has a consistent record of painfully embarassing debunking not to mention providing constant amusement of real scientists and observers, tends to make the evaluation process pretty simple.
     
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    Turks are a crime against humanity. They were useful as a bulwark in our Cold War. Now they are not so useful and are in fact a possible enemy.
     
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    the majority of the Turks are anti - Zionist what do you expect from their(the 1 democratic) PM ?
     
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    why do you think that they are the Communists?
     
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    They were an enemy of Russia and the Soviet Union....we played that angle and supported their animosity towards Russia. They aren't a very good people, are they?
     
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    Then provide evidence that they falsified their studies, I'll wait....

    No it actually shows that a Ashkanazi Jew from Poland has more genetic affinity to a Sephardi Jew in Israel than to a Polish person, maybe the Sephardi are Khazars too? :roll:

    They can trace their genetic lineage to the ancient Levant, they have in fact had an unbroken identity for 10 thousand + years.
     
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    Pretty much. Their exclusivism has preserved that.

    Exclusivism also explains why there are white people with blue eyes in the world.

    If it weren't for exclusivism, we'd all look Portuguese with brown hair and brown eyes and all dogs would look like wolves rather than dachshunds and rat terriers.
     
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    :clapping:

    It appears as tho you can't read a research paper, even when the first two paragraphs clearly contradict your take on it.
    nuff said

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    musing on a thursday night:

    Somewhere in the land of jew hatred there is a big bucket of words filled with such wonderfully discriptive words (with all variants) like:
    usurpers, invaders, non-semite, nazi, fascist, communist, murder, rapist, criminal, greedy, hook-nosed, greasy, immoral, manipulative, racist, thieves, sub human, controlling, conspiratorial, etc.

    This is so people of the persuasion are never at a loss for words to describe jews. The lovely part is that they are infinitely re-useable and can be easily strung together to make a relatively coherent sentence. Of course, its not yet sophisticated enough to recognize contradictions of terms when used (especially in anger and or intoxication), but one must come to expect that when coming across many examples of the diarrea of jew hatred.

    Logic, rationality, knowlege and critical thinking, tend to be absent from those kinds of posts. It seems such a sad waste of intellect, but since I believe in liberty and freedom - it is anyone's and everyone's right to hate, be ignorant, be paranoid, love, thirst for knowledge and be intellectually and spiritually at peace. chacun son gout.
     
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    Here's my opinion for the thread:

    Zionism is not a crime. Israel has the right to be there, and to live in peace.

    Virtually everything Israel does, however, is a crime.

    If this continues, I might have to revise my opinion about their right to be there.
     
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    you had me for the first two sentences, then lost me with the over the top third (virtually?).

    Pity because its obvious that Israel does commit crimes, the most aggregious being land theft. Its just that they also do a lot of things that are not even remotely crimes. Balance is always difficult to achieve and even more difficult to maintain.
     
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    Yes, "virtually" is rhetorical use of figurative language.. It means that when committing so many heinous crimes, you can't even see past them to any decent actions.. I can't even think of any worthwhile actions.. They don't even fight alongside their "allies" the United States in any of their wars, although they have plotted or even carried out acts of war against them on multiple occasions. It seems like all they do all day is run people over with steamrollers, try to frame innocent Brits for murder, dump the sewage from their settlements onto Palestinian communities, destroy crops and livestock, steal water, shoot unarmed civilians etc. etc. and however many other crimes I'm failing to mention. And then always try to play the victim card.. Like new rockets getting shot at them.. They spent the last months provoking them, and then try to spin it like it's the Palestinians who are the aggressors, which will no doubt justify their next carpet bombing/ tank incursion campaign.

    Yeah I don't see much good beyond that, hence my use of the word "virtually" to indicate damm near everything.

    Unless you can point out anything I'm missing.

    Maybe that word was a mistake though.. On second thought, maybe I should have omitted it outright, and just said everything they do period.

    Other than their own day to day internal affairs.. I know picking up rubbish in their streets and such would be legal. But outside their borders, I doubt there's much of anything they do that's not illegal. Nothing their troops are doing because their very presence in the places they are stationed is a crime.
     
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    Israel is a crime.

    It is the crime of the last 70yrs.

    End of.
     
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    All you say is true, but what is also true is that this is their nature distilled.

    Fact.

    Buy yourself this book, it explains the psyche.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jewish-Hist...TF8&colid=2TQ6AF77KTY2H&coliid=I3U7K4JCFYAGHI
     
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    They are a 'race of the mind'.
     
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    What do you mean why do I think they are?

    Communism is Jewish, because, at it's heart, the Jew is of no nation, and communism is/was their internationalist side manifest.

    And it involves a v controlling state.

    Like Zionism.

    International reach, and revolves around being very very controlling, ergo, both Jewish in nature.
     
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    Regardless, Genetics show that most of the Palestinians share a market with all the different Jewish groups and that they have a closer genetic market to all Jewish groups than any Jewish groups has to each other and the Palestinians are absolutely at the center of 'Jewish ethnicity'. They are the most direct descendents of Ancient Jews. The land and history is theirs. To try to colonise their historic land replacing them with your people claiming your people to be the indigenous people when the Palestinians so clearly are is one of the most hypocritical crimes ever.
     
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    The fascists, whilst pursuing their illegal blockade of Gaza, murdered 11 Turkish peace activists in international waters. Today, Israel is still ' mulling ' an apology. The blockade itself is a crime against humanity, let alone the murder of peace activists attempting to bring humanitarian aid . At no time did these people enter or threaten Israeli territory or Israeli-designated maritime areas. The Turks are correct in their description of the neoZionist regime.

    Even now everybody is expecting further killings of the protesters who rail against the murder of a Palestinian activist in a neoZionist dungeon. This brutal regime practices ethnic and hafrada- the Israeli term for apartheid- as a matter of policy. Israel nurses its propaganda spiel of a ' democracy ' in order to maintain its position on the teat of the US of AIPAC milch cow. It is not a democracy for anybody except Zionists. The 25% non-jewish Israeli citizens are second-class citizens in their own territory whilst the neoZionist regime ignores United Nations recognition of Palestinian Statehood and continues, unabashed, to steal and kill. Erdogan may have faults, all politicians are lesser men, but his description is apt, and demonstrably so. Zionism is a crime against humanity. It is criminal by default.

    I repeat the gist of post #2. This is still happening today- but not in your newspaper.

     
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