ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients — but many don’t even have COVIDWhat if......

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    That is an opinion I don't support, because I have proven it false. You just don't accept it. I won't lose sleep.
     
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    No. But it is someone with common sense, objectivity, and a penchant for personal choice.
     
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    "Based on science".

    So I should assume that you were skeptical about the vaccine before being appropriately trialed, tested, and approved? You aren't the least bit concerned that the Covid vaccine was released by the FDA actually said it was ok to do so?

    You want to present your opinions as if they are rock solid truths, facts, when in fact they aren't. The CDC changed the damn meaning of the word vaccine to suit their agenda for christ's sake.

    I got the vaccine, but I also understand WHY people have doubts, including those in the medical fields. Desiring to make it a cut and dried issue "my facts verse your un-facts" is just disrespectful arrogance driven non-sense with an inability to in the least understand where other people are coming from let alone respecting it.

    The problem with the world today is pretty much this. "I am right, you are wrong, do what I say". Stop with that.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must have been absent this day:

    Please learn this
     
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    Damn right you do!!
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, sure we do
     
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    Your point being?
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is the problem, covid overwhelms the medical system and people that need care have to wait - get the vaccine folks
     
  9. 9royhobbs

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    Yes, I was
    No, it's a GLOBAL pandemic, I'm over 65 and have respiratory problems.
    You think the name is the important thing here? Odd.
    But facts SHOULD be where you're coming from and the overwhelming worldwide fact is......get the shot. On this issue, I'm sick of people and their misinformation "facts" that keep us from getting this thing under control.
    If you're right, I'll say you're right. I've eaten crow on this forum. I don't have a problem with being proven wrong but when somethin is wrong that affect society then, no, I'm not going to respect the point of view that is clearly wrong.
     
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    Parroting is not science
    Fraud is not science
    Fudging data is not science
    Labeling a person who died in a motorcycle accident as a "Covid death" is not science
    Ignoring natural immunity is not science

    You do not support science. You support left wing fraud disguised as science engineered to harm America.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    If by "parroting" you mean giving scientific facts then, yeah, it is science
    Fraud being........what? Is covid a fraud? Are the dead a fraud? Is the vaccine a fraud?
    Are you talking about Fox News and Tucker Carlson now?
    That's a thing?
    Never ignored it, but it's not the best solution either.

    I support science. You on the other hand just made 5 statements with zero evidence to back them up. That's fraud. I've given information on everything I have claimed. You should try that or just keep your opinion to yourself or go sell to someone else other than me. I have no time for frauds.
     
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    Soo, at this point, I recommend we leave this call up to the administrators who have to staff these buildings. What may work as a viable policy in Wichita Kansas, may not in Portland Oregon, and what may work in a rural hospital in Idaho, may not in Honolulu. I am in favor of 'clearing the legal path' for these administrators etc so that it is 100% clear from a liability and policy perspective that they may terminate staff who do not comply with a vaccination mandate, but they can also delay implementation of any such policy pending adequate staffing levels. There are way too many variables for govt to decide this from afar.
     
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    It hasn't even come close to "overwhelming" the medical system. Even at its worst.
     
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    it has in many areasm but we have done pretty good job of social distancing, or would of been much much worse

    right now it's mostly unvaccinated filling our hospitals
     
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    So you admit you are a parrot.

    If you are a parrot, you are hardly qualified to determine truth vs fudge and fraud....
     
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    Do you recommend that hospital administrators know right from wrong? Legal from illegal? Should hospital administrators have a moral compass?

    There have been a number of secretly recorded conversations amongst hospital administrators that suggest they are more interested in profits than in patients' health.
     
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    If you're going to ask and answer your own questions and simply make things up and not address the answers given to your questions you're not worth talking to. You have yourself to answer all your questions.
     
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    It has never come close to overwhelming it in America. Anywhere. And any reasoning as to why is purely speculation
     
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    Conspiracy theory believers, such as yourself have no qualifications at all. 0.00%
     
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    The parrot insists - only parroting matters, thinking for yourself is not allowed...
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    It takes absolutely no intelligent thought to believe in conspiracies.
     
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    Vaccines do not help.
    You can see it on the graph.
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/#graph-cases-daily

    It is almost straight line with about 30° slope.
    If vaccines have any effect on the COVID then slope would be less steep at some point.
     
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    Yep, that is because vaccinated apparently are dying on the spot.
     
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    Translation - mindlessly repeating CNN is the definition of intelligence....


    Questioning CNN is proof of idiocy....

    Sincerely,

    Peter arnett
     
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    When your political party claims there are 362883 different genders, you have lost the title as the “party of science”. End of discussion.
     
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