Europe. Where did your freedom go?

Like I said, the MORE a given nation is marinated in it, the MORE they will be dysfunctional, and produce deeply unhappy people.

Not all are marinated in it.

 

Care to share an example?

 

Okay, I would wager people in the US are more materialistic, more consumer led, watch more violent films and tv, than, for example, the people of Iran.

I bet Iran has less instances of mental health issues among it's population.

I bet some illnesses, such as anorexia, are rare.

I bet there is less ADHA, schizophrenia.

I bet there is less violent crime.

 

I agree the veil isn't required in Islam but many Muslims do believe it to be a part of their religion. for them it is a matter of religious liberty.

How common is it really. More common than crimes by say hand guns? Oh but that's all about freedom isn't it?

Would you ban this?

 

A lot of Iranians enjoy American (and other Western) media. Their access to it is somewhat limited for obvious reasons, but it's clearly popular.

When it comes to mental health, that's all a matter of diagnosis. I would wager Iran probably bothers with less psychological screening than the U.S. -- which would therefore result in fewer recorded instances of mental illness.

I'll agree with you that it is likely that anorexia is rarer there.

When you say ADHA, I'm assuming you mean ADHD. Again, that's a matter of diagnosis. ADHD is a somewhat over-diagnosed illness, so there's some question as to the accuracy of rates here.

As for schizophrenia, there's a correlation between the brainwaves of schizophrenics and exceptionally religious people, so given Iran's higher degree of piety, I'd say they probably have more schizos than us per capita.

I'll agree that there probably is less violent crime though.

 

Your picture isn't displaying properly.

Anyway, I wasn't advocating a ban by government.

Since you brought up guns, however, plenty of businesses don't allow guns. Logically, the same can apply to covering someone's face.

Prohibiting someone from entering your business for wearing a veil isn't a violation of the freedom of religion, because:

1) it's not a required part of a religion

2) no one is forcing veil-wearers to enter a business

 

Right-click and open image in new tab (or save image to desktop).

 

Thanks... lol...

It's a funny picture, although nuns don't actually cover their faces. You can identify nuns without much trouble. Covering the nose and mouth makes identification much more difficult.

 

Well, I am not sure that is true.

Iran is quite a sophisticated nation, you know.

It may just well be that their people generally do not feel so fragmented, that they need to see a psychiatrist, to start with.

Some of these things can be genetic, as well.

Some people's are many times more likely to suffer a range of mental illness, that does not reflect the wider population.

Look at this, for instance...

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8123-insanity

And this...

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11446-nervous-diseases



http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/11446-nervous-diseases

 

"The unedited full-text of the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia"
Studies conducted before 1906.
Very relevant.
I wonder, How did the joooooz crawl up to this discussion?

 

You don't really wonder about that do you?
Consider the source, apparently joooooz are the source of all misery in the world.

You know I never could understand that if the evil joo conspiracy has been running the world for the past few hundred years, why is it that WW2 happened and jew haters and conspiracy nuts are still alive. Considering how the joo is a monsterous, torturing murderous greedy crafty treasonous, baby killers, blood eaters, and assassins you'd think popping off a few thousand idiotic jew hating bigots would be walk in the park.

 

Here's something to consider. Mental illness itself is viewed differently by various cultures. In the West, it's more socially accepted to see a psychiatrist.

Some would say we over-diagnose as a result or that we have a surplus of hypochondriacs.

I would think Iran probably attaches a greater social stigma to mental illness than the West in general. A lot of Islamic societies do. So, as a result, more of them likely attempt to "tough it out" rather than be known as having a mental problem.

 

Maybe mate, I don't know.

The thing is, not ENOUGH people get to see a counsellor, or therapy.

That is what can work best, imo.

Everyone seems to be on some sort of 'mood stabiliser'.

Then we have the suicide rates, which are shocking, both here, and in the US.

I'd say that we have an unhappy society, and it manifests in such ways.

 

I can't speak for the U.K., but yeah, America medicates too much.

We do need more counseling and less drugs.

 

Amen to that, my friend.

Have a good day.

 

Now I am beginning to understand Jack better, if he says everyone is using a "mood stabiliser" he is obviously including himself.

Speaking for myself, I use nothing of the sort. I know of only one person - who is terminally ill - who uses mood stabilisers due to her condition. Other than that not a single other person.

 

Jooos always creep into the dicussion for certain posters.

You have to wonder how paranoid schezophrenics - as the jooos apparently are - are running the world so seamlessly! LOL

 

As I said before, some people believe it to be a part of their religion so whether it is or not, for them it is a religious issue. Ironic that people talk about freedom in America yet a person can not wear the clothes he or she wants to wear specially if those are required by their religion.

Veils are not used to kill people but guns are.

How far would you go. Next you did be saying loose clothing should not be allowed since many shoplifters use that to steal stuff. women wear the veil in many Muslim countries and there hasn't been an issue with that anywhere. Why is it such an issue in the West. Perhaps a couple of incidents has given an excuse to the religious bigots to shun Islamic culture and religion from society as much as possible.

 

Speak for your self (shaking nervously)! Now where the hell is my coffee and Baileys? There it is next to the Johnny Walker! Man I need a smoke!

 

You know, you used to be a lot less defensive. What happened?

I think you've been arguing with bigots too much, because you seem to treat everyone who disagrees with you as one.

 

You are right. Even when I posted it, I was thinking it didn't really address you but more the bigots around here. Plus blame it on a very hectic few weeks at work.

But all the same, those are valid points.

 

Hmmm,
Borat, if there would be a medal for talking crap, you would deserve gold...
best regards

 

Fair enough... I understand your concern that a personal ban on veils in a business could be easily used to discriminate, but I'm just saying that I personally would like that freedom to restrict my customers for my own safety's sake.

I would apply it to any face coverings -- veils, masks, etc.

And as far as I know, the bans are already in place in several banks. Again, these are self-imposed -- not government-imposed (as far as I know).

 

You are wrong there, sorry to say.
As each country has its own school system, you got already a diversity there, which cannot be found in the US.
Secondly, if you want to finish your highschool with a TEE degree part of your learning has to include the knowledge of two foreign languages. How many do you have to learn in the US?
Best regards

 

That is something that could be worked out provided all parties are well intentioned. The laws being proposed in Europe and France all stem from fear mongering from bigots,