Your demagogy is pretty annoying. My story didn't changed a bit. Can't say the same about yours. While statement 1) claims that submarines isn't a problem, statement 2) claims, that they are "very good" and poster "should not underestimate them". Obvious "change of mind" is obvious. I am not sure I can. You know, claiming that anti-missile complex THAAD, deployed in 2009 is somehow equal to long-range AA complex S-300, deployed in 1979 basically to counter enemy aircraft and just with useful option to counter cruise missiles is pretty extrime. Patriot is not "different type" system. It is inferior in it's capabilities system.
I think you are completely out of touch with reality. While the 'elites' do indeed have a lot of control, just look at what is happening in Europe right now. Look at what changed in the UK as the war in Iraq became more and more unpopular. There is no public sentiment for the plan you would have the 'elite' impose upon Europe. Any plan that starts with "the civilians don't matter" is a plan doomed to fail in Western Europe.
So you are saying the EU is doomed to fail? The public isn't always right, and they don't always understand things. Civilians matter once the plan is in place, I know most people wouldn't vote of it so for the time being they do not matter.
What the civilians say and believe and vote matters a lot. You are not living in dictatorships over there, and generally the people are the ones that give the orders to the military, not the other way around. And some people in here think I am "far right wing". The more you expand on your beliefs, the more you make me look more like Jimmy Carter then Atilla the Hun.
No I just understand the EU system, and would use it to get what I want done. As in my view it is far more important to have an European military, than the EU parliament.
This plan is rather stupid and it seems most people know so as well. <<< MOD EDIT: INSULT REMOVED >>>
I think you are completely out of touch with reality. While the 'elites' do indeed have a lot of control, just look at what is happening in Europe right now. Look at what changed in the UK as the war in Iraq became more and more unpopular. There is no public sentiment for the plan you would have the 'elite' impose upon Europe. Any plan that starts with "the civilians don't matter" is a plan doomed to fail in Western Europe. I think the EU will eventually succeed. I think a EU defense force will be nothing like you envision, because of how the citizens of the EU member states feel.