Even fox can’t protect trump anymore

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    When Cavuto a staunch trump supporter on Fox said this....wow

    "President Trump is fond of calling out the media on "fake" news. But is he the one giving them very real ammunition? Maybe not intentionally. I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt, Mr. President, and say maybe not deliberately. But consistently. Way too consistently. So let me be clear Mr. President, how can you claim to be draining the swamp if you're the one that keeps muddying the waters?"
    Then Cavuto rattled off a series of Trump's most recent and flagrant lies. He cites the hush money payment to Stormy Daniels; his denial of knowledge about MIchael Cohen's activities on his behalf; his specious claims that there were no campaign finance violations. In each instance Cavuto noted that Trump stuck to his false claims until they could no longer be denied or his own party comrades debunked them.

    Cavuto went on to itemize Trump's catalog of obvious untruths such as claiming that the Russians didn't interfere with the 2016 elections, and his subsequent denial that he ever made that claim; that his tax plan was the biggest ever; that those tax cuts would cost him a fortune; that his job approval numbers were better than his predecessors; that media reports that senior staffers (Secretary of State, Chief-of-Staff, economic advisor, political strategist, etc) were about to be fired were fake. Cavuto even brought up Trump's denials that his lawyers (Dowd, Cobb) would be leaving, and that he denied ever considering firing Robert Mueller.

    And even after that barrage of friendly fire Cavuto wasn't done. He called Trump out for falsely saying that he signed more bills than any other president. And that he raised the national debt by over a trillion dollars despite claiming that he reduced it. And that there was massive voter fraud in New Hampshire and Virginia, and millions of illegal voters nationwide. And that his alleged electoral college landslide eclipsed those before him.

    It was a brutal damning of Trump's notorious dishonesty and aversion to the truth. Although Cavuto tried to to insert softening agents every now and then such as "Now I'm not saying you're a liar," and "None of this makes me a Never Trumper," and "None of this makes you evil," and "None of this makes what you say fake." Why the heck not? Actually, all of that makes him a liar and what he says fake. But Cavuto can only go so far. And for him this is light years. He closed with an especially pungent censure of the President that would surely sting if his handlers ever let him hear it:

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-President-That-s-Your-Stink?detail=emaildkre
     
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    Nation is in an amazing state and getting better by the day.

    That's what voters care about.

    He said this no he said this no he meant this no he said this no blah blah blah blah blah.

    People don't honestly give a **** about that.

    MEDIA cares because of media can run a big ol' "the President is a liar" headline then that means ad revenue goes up.

    But the people? ...they don't care.
     
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    Cavoto was never a “staunch trump supporter”

    Hell, he’s not even a conservative
     
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    Is that right? Because it seems like people - by a massive margin that roughly matches the Trump disapproval vs approval rating - think the country is headed in the wrong direction.

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    Also, the only people who do not care that Trump lied to them is the people who already support Donald Trump.
     
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    Do you only care about the opinions of "staunch trump supporters?"
     
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    All those pollsters are anti trumpists

    Even Rasmussen knows the Deep State is not to be triffled with
     
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    I almost never agree with Cavuto

    He’s a prissy sissy who gets his opinions from the elites he goes to parties with
     
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    This is such a cheap and pathetic cop out.

    "I don't want to listen to any negative opinions about Trump, so I will accuse all sources which discuss negative opinions as being extremely biased."
     
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    Trump is just following in what we have come to expect from all politicians...if their lips are moving, they are lying. Not sure why he would only go after trump when for cavuto's entire life he seemed to be ok with the lies coming from politicians, and intel heads.

    Why is it that only the last election matters, when it comes to russian meddling? They have done it for decades, just as we have always done it. It would be different if this was the first time ever that russia tried to meddle. And even that meddling last time only involved social media, unless of course you can present the evidence they were involved with wilkileaks. No one else has. Not even that intel report not done by regular analysts but cherry picked analysts, who did give us the caveat on page 13 in regards to evidence, admitting they lacked it. lol

    Yes trump lies. And about things he does not have to lie about. It is his personality flaw. And that makes him fit in very well with the other, but more clever and skilled liars in DC. He just isn't very good at it. And get caught.

    Just as long as he does not lie about something like, "you can keep your doctor" you know things that the american people can feel in their daily lives. Or if he lies to get us into another useless war costing american blood. When he does that I will go after him too. But not for what is par for the course in DC.
     
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    That is what is so sad is that people like you don’t care. Yet you seem to care so much about Obama’s birth certificate or Hillary’s emails. But yet you don’t seem to care about a person who might have won the election with interference from our enemy. People should care and that is what is so sad about trumps base.
    We see videos of Trump saying something and then blatantly denied he ever said it and his bass goes along with it. There is something very sad about that. It is blaming the messenger and ignoring the messages
     
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    I hope you shared all this information about Russia intruding in our election. Under Obama that is. Isn’t it wonderful that Obama was helped by the Russians and the Republicans just let it go? Come on use some common sense.
    By the way Trump is wonderful at lying because he knows that his base will defend him. Remember he said that when he was nominated that his base will support him even if he shot someone on fifth Avenue. He was right. By the way I don’t believe you will ever go after him
     
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    He is a staunch supporter of trump....But once again typical of right wingers they blame the messengers and ignore the message. As soon as someone says something about Trump they resort to acting like trump and calling people childish school boy names
     
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    There is something very funny about accusing all pollsters of being anti-trump.So what you’re basically saying they are all part of the conspiracy. Commonsense would tell us that if they were giving false information they would lose their credibility
     
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    It is common knowledge the russians always try to meddle. I cannot help it that you are not accepting of the self evident. I guess you do not believe the US ever meddles either?

    The GOP did not grab onto a conspiracy theory, when they got beat by obama. It probably never occurred to them to do it. But then, they did not suffer from being exposed by wilkileaks either, that the RNC operated under banana republic principles.
     
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    People like me, yea, the ones not being led about by fake news.

    Obama's birth certificate was a fun story because of how well he played everyone and I love a good troll.

    By refusing to release any proof for so long it kept the conspiracies flowing which supports that "no press is bad press" strategy.

    Then when they did get something out they called it a direct scan but it was instantly demonstrated to be a photoshop fabrication thus sparking up a whole new set of theories.

    The troll continues to this day because we still don't know for a 100% undeniable fact that he was born here.

    It was a fun saga because no one got hurt or suffered from it, I loved it.

    Hillary's emails on the other hand, massive criminal breach and conspiracy that demonstrated just how ****ed up our DOJ/FBI was and now we're in the process of clearing that trash out.

    And as for this Russia conspiracy theory nutjob witch hunt I care very much because its the closest America has ever come to an outright coup and that is something everyone in the nation should care about.
     
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    Polls, heh.

    Dumb people who regard massive economic up-scaling as "disapproval".
     
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    BULLCRAP/. Cavuto was a NEVER-TRUMPER.....
     
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    Of course he was...but now he called out trump, he isn’t a trumper. He’s getting kicked out of the club
    By the way, what isn’t true in what he said?
     
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    Thank you...you described a trump supporter. Loving a president who is a troll. So sad....
     
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    The economic upscaling occurred before, and at the same rate, as before the 1.5 trillion dollar tax give away to the rich.

    And then there's that whole, "the country is more than the economy" issue.
     
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    Hate to break this to you. The Mueller team admitted it has zero evidence of collusion. Remember, this is all based on Hillary paid for garbage.
     
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    In other words... birthers.
     
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    what did trump do that fox needs to protect him again?
    Can a leftist please cite Trumps crime here below:
     
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    Do you make assumptions about black people too?
     
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    Except the Trump campaign was under investigation before that "garbage." And no, the Mueller team hasn't admitted any such thing. The fact that the Trump campaign in the very least attempted such collusion (which itself could be prosecuted) has already been established.
     
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