Even with Trump losing, I can live with this years election.

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I supported Trump in particular and I'm a supporter of Republicans in general, but I can live with the results of this election.


    1) There are worse things than having the oldest man ever elected president who is by all appearances a tottering mess as the official leader of the Democratic Party.

    2) With the Republicans retaining control of the Senate, there is no danger of the Democrats packing the Supreme Court by changing the number of justices. No danger of the Democrats pushing for statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico.

    3) Nancy Pelosi isn't going to advance any of the liberal dreams like medicare for all or the Green New Deal when the Democrats hold on the House is so precarious. Thanks to the unexpected Republican gains in the House, it is entirely possible and even likely that the Democrats will lose control of the chamber in 2022 if nothing more happens than the GOP makes the typical average gains in the House that the party out of power routinely makes in the first midterms after a new president takes over.


    So Pelosi is going completely low key.


    4) Ironically, given the sheer number of Republicans facing reelection in 2022 and the average losses in the House that take place for the party controlling the presidency in the first midterms, it is quite likely that the results of 2022 will be that the Democrats take control of the Senate....but that the Republicans retake control of the House.


    5) I'm not even worried about President Biden replacing Supreme Court justices. The oldest Supreme Court justice in Stephen Breyer who is 82 (ten years older than Thomas who is the second oldest). Replacing one liberal justice with another liberal will have no impact on the current leanings of the court.


    6) The only things that really worries me about Biden is that he will not push for greatly increased defense spending which I see as vital in preparing the U.S. for the next major war which I'm certain is coming. Also, Biden according to his science adviser doesn't care much for manned space exploration beyond Earth orbit. So we can kiss the moon and Mars goodbye for a few more years.


    Unless something radical happens, this diehard GOPer can live with it.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think most republicans are secretly kinda happy Trump lost, he was destroying their party, now they can go back to pretending they are the moral family values party and against debt again
     
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    You mean like the left pretends to care about women's rights when they wanna allow 9th month abortions and infanticide after it comes out alive from the womb? YUP, the Republicans must be "pretending" to have morals. You guys could use a few lessons in the department of MORALS
     
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    Even with Trump losing, I can live with this years election.
    Biden is a good man with a heart, & a real affection for the American people. He's politically a moderate, so he has an ability to deal with anyone on either side of an argument, & find compromise. He's not an idealigue, but is very practical. He's not an egoist, egotist, or egomaniac. Overall, he's a pretty likable person, who just might surprise us all & make a great President. I hope so.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you can live with a turd in the middle of your living room god bless you. I'd rather not.
     
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    Continuing the namecalling rather than working at burying the hatchet & healing the nation, is exactly what Trump would want from you. Congratulations.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Biden (and Harris) smile too much. Of course Trump does too. I don't trust anyone who smiles too much.
     
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    You have a good point. Dems can pretend to care about the poor and the planet as well.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait til they do away with fracking and gasoline goes to $6 a gallon and see how you like them then.
     
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    Honestly, I don't care either. I'm conservative, but presidents don't make many decisions that affect down to the person level.

    I may have comments about his policies, even disagree, but you won't see me acting like a fool for the next 4 years like our house liberals acted.
     
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    Let's not pretend that the left didn't HEAVILY contribute to the divisiveness.
     
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    Sometimes the extremes someone can go to to find fault astounds me. Having Biden & Harris offer America smiles instead of constant conflict, is a welcome change.
     
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    Trump contributed to the divisiveness, along with many other Republican leaders & sychophants. Democrats, including myself, have been exhausted by it for years, & sincerely want it to end. I don't like what Republicans have done to America since 1994, but I'm willing to work with them to heal this nation. ARE YOU?
     
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    I agree that the Senate being with the GOP, there will be no radical leftist bills signed into law, and it reassures me too. But just remember: this part is not decided yet. Both Georgia senatorial races are going to a run-off in January, and if the Dems win both, it's 50-50, and with Harris as the VP to break the tie, they will have control of the Senate.
     
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    Don't worry. Most democrats are really good at absolve themselves of any personal responsibility and making themselves into victims.

    Clearly your no different.
     
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    Very nice analysis. But let me point out that the DNC's goal in deliberately selecting a dementia patient is so that they could back door the V.P. selection they wanted and then make her Biden's presidential replacement -- probably within the first six months of his term. A vigorous and radical and race-baiting racist like Kamala Harris is a different kettle of fish from 'go along to get along' sleepy Joe Biden. Meh . . . but it will be what it will be.

    Personally I am all agog to see how the pandemic panic porn pushers of the nation's political left media outlets and their DNC bosses deal with COVID-19 now that they will be in charge. Even money says they will discover that COVID-19 is no longer a pressing issue. But then again there is the national economy that they panicked the nation into shutting down. Sure Trump fought them to get the national economy restarted, but that pro-business and pro-capitalism president will soon be gone and the anti-business and anti-capitalism Dem Party politicians will be in charge of the national economy. Can anyone say 'massive economic depression'? I bet huge numbers of us learn how.
     
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    I am amazed how Republicans can believe so many conspiracy theories.
     
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    yes, biden is very practical. he finds it practical to blindly follow the whims of his party. i agree that he is no ideologue. he has no ideals or ideas of his own and i doubt he ever has. he may be likable, but he will never be a great president. in fact, he's no president at all. his will be a presidency like obama's, a puppet show controlled by the party. even before the onset of his dementia he was nothing more than a drone doing his master's bidding.
     
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    They wont retain control. There is no chance in hell that the DNC wont drop 9 figures worth of monies into the Georiga runoffs, plural. There will be confusion, there will be tension, there will be obfuscation, there will be last minute rule changes, there will be FRAUD. I'm sorry but there is, at best, a 0.1% chance the GOP stays in the majority.
     
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    Yes, and we'll hear lovely, contrite anecdotes oozing out of the woodwork about how they didn't really like him
     
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    I wish that were true.

    But it isn't.

    Trump's success can be attributed to a real cult of personality that has overshadowed many of the principles that defined the GOP.

    Trump has become the GOP and his departure from the WH will create a huge void among Republicans who will have a hard time redefining themselves.
     
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    With "pretending" the key word...they lost all credibility by backing a scuzbucket whom they worship..
     
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    The overwhelming majority of Republicans I knew of never "worshipped" Donald Trump. They supported him as he eventually became the only game in town. I remember watching the GOP primaries in 2016 desperately hoping one of the normal Republicans would break out of the pack and steal support from Trump.

    It speaks volumes that you cannot understand how someone would support Donald Trump without cult like feelings.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    With "pretending" the key word...they lost all credibility by backing a scuzbucket whom they worship..



    Uh, hate to shock you but YOU are not the spokesman or representative of republicans.







    :) There's the fall-back-on-when-you-have-nothing-to -say "it speaks volumes".....that IS a quaint and old fashioned saying but it doesn't say much :)


    It "speaks volumes" ;)about Republicans that Trump is the best they could do ...they touted family values but couldn't deliver a decent man with family values ..must not be any in the Republican party LOLOL...
     
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    I share the sentiment, I am disappointed but I can live with 4 years of hamstrung by republican senate lame duck Biden and I am happy that MAGA is alive and well.

    Trump haters expected a landslide as a repudiation of Trump's America First platform, the incredible closeness of the election, the success in the Senate and victories in the House are the strongest possible affirmation of MAGA and repudiation of Trump haters, not Trump.

    We have a party that represents the american working people, not the ruling classes, it's attracting minorities and women in unprecedented numbers. This is not a defeat, it's a gigantic shift in the US politics, even with Trump gone.
     
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