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Evolution is a joke Pt. VIII

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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Ummm... That is what a colony is rs199. The yeast that you described is a colony of yeast… That is why it’s not a new organism, but a colony of yeast. That is why there is no name for it as I asked because it’s a colony of yeast. This is quite common actually in life. Just like the snotties I just gave you a link to. When single cell organisms get in a colony, they do what colony organisms do… and that is what your yeast does, because you know what? It’s a colony organism!!

    Please, before you post again, did you read the links of how yeast is a colony organism? It’s right there… I am giving you a chance rs199… I’m trying to be nice. Please read the links and respond. You are wrong about yeast and it being evolution… Sorry, that article is just more propaganda for the religion…


    What is a Red Herring?
     
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    A colony has NOTHING to do with a cell going from single to multicellular.

    NOTHING. You are simply injecting this BULL(*)(*)(*)(*) of colonies because you CANNOT answer the following:

    Keep throwing red herrings instead of answering the question.

    Once again from the original article

     
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    Since you have no clue, I will give you a chance to explain to the readers... How did the colony of yeast replicate multicellular life?

    You keep saying this is true, then let us know how it happened. Or are you the type that is like, "Moses parted the sea..." Prove it... I just did - I just told you it happened... and it's here in this Book so it HAS to be true!!!

    Because I'll let you dig your hole because the deeper you dig it - the sweeter the FAIL!!!

    And you will FAIL on this...
     
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    http://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=122828&WT.mc_id=USNSF_52&WT.mc_ev=click

    That was significant because it meant that they were genetically similar, which promotes cooperation. When the clusters reached a critical size, some cells died off in a process known as apoptosis to allow offspring to separate.
    The offspring reproduced only after they attained the size of their parents.

    http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2012/UR_CONTENT_370158.html

    Analysis showed that the clusters were not just groups of random cells that adhered to each other, but related cells that remained attached following cell division. That was significant because it meant they were genetically similar, which promotes cooperation. When the clusters reached a critical size, some cells essentially committed suicide (apoptosis) to allow offspring to separate. The offspring reproduced only after they attained the size of their parents.

    From The Gov’t and University of Minnesota… Do you know what Parents mean? It means that the offspring came from two parents… and they are not multicellular. Two independent yeast cells (do you know what that’s called) had a baby and it didn’t reproduce until it was the size of the parent.

    If you want – you can go ahead and give us the name of the process where single yeast gave birth to a multicellular organism… This should be interesting – please give creditable links as I have!! Not more of your propaganda crap!!!
     
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    Your FAIL is almost complete...
     
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    Those reading... Yea, I guess this is me not know what I am talking about yet again as I make rs199 FAIL complete!!

    I told the poster to research... of course they never do and then... I have to blast them.
     
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    And to finish off the complete FAIL...

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK28332/

    The simplest way of achieving this is for daughter cells to remain together after each cell division. Even some procaryotic cells show such social behavior in a primitive form. Myxobacteria, for example, live in the soil and feed on insoluble organic molecules that they break down by secreting degradative enzymes. They stay together in loose colonies in which the digestive enzymes secreted by individual cells are pooled, thus increasing the efficiency of feeding (the "wolf-pack" effect). These cells indeed represent a peak of social sophistication among procaryotes, for when food supplies are exhausted, the cells aggregate tightly together and form a multicellular fruiting body (Figure 1-31), within which the bacteria differentiate into spores that can survive even in extremely hostile conditions. When conditions are more favorable, the spores in a fruiting body germinate to produce a new swarm of bacteria.


    or this

    Green algae (not to be confused with the procaryotic "blue-green algae" or cyanobacteria) are eucaryotes that exist as unicellular, colonial, or multicellular forms (Figure 1-32). Different species of green algae can be arranged in order of complexity, illustrating the kind of progression that probably occurred in the evolution of higher plants and animals. Unicellular green algae, such as Chlamydomonas, resemble flagellated protozoa except that they possess chloroplasts, which enable them to carry out photosynthesis. In closely related genera, groups of flagellated cells live in colonies held together by a matrix of extracellular molecules secreted by the cells themselves. The simplest species (those of the genus Gonium) have the form of a concave disc made of 4, 8, 16, or 32 cells. Their flagella beat independently, but since they are all oriented in the same direction, they are able to propel the colony through the water. Each cell is equivalent to every other, and each can divide to give rise to an entirely new colony. Larger colonies are found in other genera, the most spectacular being Volvox, some of whose species have as many as 50,000 or more cells linked together to form a hollow sphere. In Volvox the individual cells forming a colony are connected by fine cytoplasmic bridges so that the beating of their flagella is coordinated to propel the entire colony along like a rolling ball (see Figure 1-32). Within the Volvox colony there is some division of labor among cells, with a small number of cells being specialized for reproduction and serving as precursors of new colonies. The other cells are so dependent on one another that they cannot live in isolation, and the organism dies if the colony is disrupted.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvox

    Volvox... been around for 200 million years, that's a long time without evolving now isn't it... Maybe it will evolve next week huh?!?!
     
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    FAIL!!!!


    I told you to look stuff up, why did you not look it up? Please look things up next time please...
     
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    I sent you this and you refused to read it... It's all right there... all of it...

    Did you read?
     
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    There ya go again, using the word colony.

    Multicellular Life Evolves in Laboratory

    No where in the article does it state: 'colony of yeast replicate multicellular life' <--- Just more red herrings from you.

    Also, once again; you will not answer this question:

    If the single cell yeast did not become multicellular via Evolution, then why is there multicellular offspring?
     
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    In your propaganda of course it isn't... That is why you getting your links from places like Wired...

    Also, I said that it didn't replicate multicellular life. That's just retarded. If you think so - post something - ANYTHING where it states, outside of propaganda sites, that yeast replicates multicellular life. BECAUSE THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
     
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    Uh-huh:

    Whats the next red herring?
     
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    There I go again with the Colony...

    Funny...

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10806103

    Yeast colonies synchronise their growth and development.Palková Z, Forstová J.
    SourceDepartment of Genetics and Microbiology, Charles University, Vinicná 5, Czech Republic. zdenap@prfdec.natur.cuni.cz.

    Abstract
    The ability to emit and receive signals over long distances is one of the characteristic attributes of multicellular organisms. Such communication can be mediated in different manners (by chemical compounds, light waves, acoustic waves etc.) and usually is reflected in the behaviour of the communicating organisms. Recently, we reported that individual yeast colonies, organised multicellular structures, can also communicate at long distance by means of volatile ammonia, which is produced by colonies in pulses separated by acidification of the medium. Here, we demonstrate that the colony that first reached the stage of intense ammonia production induces ammonia production response in surrounding colonies regardless of their age, causing the synchronisation of their NH(3) pulses and, consequently, the mutual affection of their growth. Also an artificial source of ammonia (but neither NH(4)(+) nor NaOH gradients) can immediately induce the ammonia production even in the colony starting its acidic stage of the development. The repeated transition of Candida mogii colonies from the acidic phase to the phase of intensive ammonia production is accompanied by dramatic changes in colony morphology and also in cell morphology and growth. Relatively smooth colonies in the acidic phase are formed by growing pseudohyphae. After ammonia induction, pseudohyphae decompose into non-dividing yeast-like cells, which rearrange themselves into ruffled spaghetti-like structures. The synchronisation of colony growth, that also exists between yeast colonies of different genera, could be important in establishing their optimal distribution in a natural habitat.

    PMID: 10806103 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Free full text


    What that site is: The National Center for Biotechnology Information advances science and health by providing access to biomedical and genomic information.

    Here is the whole paper: http://jcs.biologists.org/content/113/11/1923.full.pdf
     
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    Onc again, A red herring..No where in my articel does it state anything about colonies. :bored:
     
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    It's true I tell you because my Bible (Wired.com) said it was so. You keep believing your Bible there rs199!!! It is impossible for yeast to replicate multicellular life... period... IMPOSSIBLE!!!

    But, since your Bible said it happened... it happened huh?
    :rolleyes:
     
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    I have given you like 10 websites from colleges and from the Gov&#8217;t and you are holding onto your propaganda of Wired like a Preacher holding on to his Bible outside of an abortion clinic and screaming how Jesus moonwalked across the Black Sea.

    How did he do it? The Bible said he did it so OF COURSE he did it!!! Right? Next homosapien sapiens will be giving birth to crawdads!!
     
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    It fits the discussion... Do you not know how it does, is that your question?
     
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    Riddle me this rs199...

    How does a single cell replicate multicellular life? How does it just PRESTO CHANGO whole chromosomes into existance?
     
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    Yeah, I'm asking how it fits into your discussion. Aside from being about yeast, I don't see how it has anything to do with your side of the argument.
     
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