Executive order from Brewer blocks IDs, benefits for illegal immigrants

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MolonLabe2009, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    A brilliant summing up of your own position. Thanks.
     
  2. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Perhaps you too would be so kind as to address your personal remarks about me towards me.
     
  3. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If the shoe fits.....
     
  4. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And yet here, you are, insisting to this "lost cause" (I guess that hour thing is not going to happen) that you are somehow correct when clearly, given history and reality, you are not.
     
  5. jackdog

    jackdog Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2009
    Messages:
    19,691
    Likes Received:
    384
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Hopefully next year we will have a PoTUS that can engineer a bipartisan solution to this mess. Obama certainly is not a very good leader but then considering he has zero managerial experience that is not surprising. Even GW Bush could get congress to enact legislation, Obama had a hard time getting anything done even when the Dems had control of Senate and House
     
  6. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Don't break a sweat worrying about who I address my remarks towards. I addressed the person who made the post I lauded. That doesn't concern you.
     
  7. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am going by Obama's own admission and the Constitution. I suggest you look at how laws are made and come back when it is clear to you.
     
  8. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Obama, by executive fiat, has given work permits to people not legally entitled to them. That's breaking the law of the land and
    ignoring federal immigration policy that's been in place for decades. There is no way around that. In post #108 I post documentation that proves Obama has acknowledged he doesn't have the authority to change federal policy on his own. People that endlessly argue this point are essentially arguing with Barry himself. Ironic.
     
  9. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yep, I definitely am not getting that hour sans petty little insults.
     
  10. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I understand.

    Much more important to find a like mind in gossiping than to actually make a point. It makes said gossiping easier and justifies it's lack of morality is you can find someone else to participate in it with you.

    Myself? well, I prefer to think and act alone. Makes for a much more genuine arguemnt.
     
  11. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You being wrong or not knowing something is not an insult. I see what you are doing. Cry cry cry so you can report me. Not going to work. Just admit you are wrong or move along. Perhaps listening to Obama speak again might clue you in.
     
  12. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2012
    Messages:
    7,134
    Likes Received:
    598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    She is not making immigration law there is nothing that says these people can't live and work in Arizona, just don't ask for government programs reserved for certain groups. States can issue ID's as they wish the Real ID law sets standards for Federal use ID. She could go okay this ID is only legal for Federal identification needs its not useful for any Arizona use officially, businesses and others are free to accept them as they wish for their needs. It would be 100% legal and proper. Say an ID with a bold blue Federal Use Only on the back.

    As for state funded services and programs why should they spend their money in a way they don't wish to, I would assume any Federal program funded with Federal funds and joint programs would be required to be provided by a court.
     
  13. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Messages:
    65,277
    Likes Received:
    4,601
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do people ever post on topic anymore or just post personal attacks? Seriously dude, can you actually take me to task on something I said or just post nonsense about me?
     
  14. ELOrocks17

    ELOrocks17 New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    Messages:
    4,872
    Likes Received:
    94
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Or lying scheming, America hating socialist Presidents?
     
  15. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2010
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Gossip? DonGlock26 made an observation about your posting strategy and I agreed with him. Sue me! Third party input in threads is so common you would virtually silence the forum if you had your way and kept "gossip" out of the mix. Once again I suggest you stop personalizing every single thing you disagree with.

    And points? I've made lots of points about Obama's autocratic handling of this immigration mess and you've either ignored the facts or denied them (even when multiple posters prove you wrong). That's typical of you and I've run into it in other threads which is why I agreed so whole heartedly with DonGlock.
     
  16. r3000

    r3000 Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    396
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    :buggered:
     
  17. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just hope her plane doesn't mysteriously crash...
     
  18. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Has nothing to do with her opinion -- she's upholding state law. Which is her job.
     
  19. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No other nation. :roll:
     
  20. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's because illegal immigration is a third-rail. God forbid you get called a racist by Antonio Villaraigosa and Cruz Bustamante.
     
  21. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
  22. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Emergency healthcare is the only kind most illegals use. I live part-time in China and every time I renew my visa, I have to prove that I have my own health insurance, and that I will not become a burden on their society. What's wrong with that?
     
  23. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2011
    Messages:
    48,878
    Likes Received:
    11,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have shown you to been wrong in this thread. Your "great opinion" is incorrect. I can not help it if you continue to throw a hissy fit. You asked for a link i provided you OBAMA in his OWN WORDS. You can listen to it as many times as you want. You are welcome. Man up. Admit you are wrong and move along.
     
  24. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Good one! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  25. Bow To The Robots

    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,855
    Likes Received:
    5,926
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well, here we agree. The IGRA of 1986 ("Reagan's amnesty") prescribes a $10,000 fine per occurrence of I-9 noncompliance. No administration hence has used this law to much effect--and yes, the absolute WORST of the lot was Bush W 43...

    How about we get real honest about it and blame them all--because they have sold our borders to the highest bidders.

    Ridiculous assertion.
     

Share This Page